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Ancestry from the Perspective of Adela and Lila Seltzer

Direct Lines (from the perspective of Adela and Lila)

Seltzer Family,. Starting from Generation 1, 1.1 Robert Seltzer, 1975 (back to 1572)
Denenberg Family, Starting from Generation 1, 0.0 Stacey Denenberg, 1976
Hartley Family, Starting from Generation 2, 0.10 Barbara Ann Hartley, 1950 (back to 1883)
Estes Family, Starting from Generation 3, 0.110 Helen Estes, 1920 (back to 970)
Wilson Family, Starting from Generation 3, 0.100 Mary Wilson, 1911 (back to 1837)

Daly Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1110 Lillian Leona Daly, 1890 (back to 1724)
Gillespie Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1000 Mary Jane Gillespie, 1881 (back to 1850)
Davis Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1010 Nell Davis, 1883, (back to 1804)
Griffith Family, from North Wales, Starting from Generation  4, 0.1100 Mae Griffith, 1883 (back to 1795)
Bogan Family, from Cork, Ireland, Starting from Generation 5, 0.11000 Isabella Bogan, 1848 (back to 1780)
Bates Family,
Starting from Generation 7, 0.1101119 Sarah Langhorne Bates, c. 1780 (back to 1685)
The Fleming Family, Starting from Generation 10, 0.1101110110 Susannah Tarleton Fleming, c. 1685 (back to 1252)
Neff Family, Starting from Generation 10, 0.111111110  Anna Catherina Neff, 1666 (back to 1406)
Zimmerman Family, Starting from Generation 11,0.1111111100 Regina Zimmerman, 1629 (back to 1580)
Ringer Family, Starting from Generation 12,0.11111111000 Anna Ringer, 1591 (back to 1288)
Livingston Family, Starting from Generation 14, 0.1101110110110 Margaret Livingston, 1634 (back to 1500)
Graham Family, Starting with Generation 15, 0.110111011011110 Lilias Graham, 1570 (back to 1424)
Second Stewart Family. Starting from Generation 15, 0.1101110110111110 Janet Stewart, 1502 (back to 1114)
First Douglas Family, Starting from Generation 17, 0.1101110110110110 Agnes Douglas, c. 1500
Stewart Family, Starting with Generation 19, 0.11011101101101110 Joan Stewart, 1428 (back to 1278)
The Keith Family, Starting from Generation 20, Lady Janet Keith, c. 1492 (back to 1492)
Beaufort Family, Starting from Generation 20, 0.1101110110110111100 Joan Beaufort, 1404 (back to 1043)
Second Douglas Family, Starting from Generation 20, 0.1101110110111111110 Janet Douglas, 1420 (back to 1238)
The Holland Family, Starting from Generation 21, with 0.11011101101101111000 Margaret Holland, 1385 (back to 1283)
Drummond Family, Starting from Generation 21, with Annabella Drummond, 1350 (back to 1153)
Plantagenet Family, Starting from Generation 23, Joan the Fair Maid of Ken
t, 1328 (back in 1043)
The Hainault Family, Starting from Generation 23, with Philippa of Hainaut

Capet Family, Starting from Generation 24, from Marguerite of France 
Brabant Family, Starting from Generation 25, from Maria of Brabant
Family of Baldwin of Constantinople, Starting from Generation 27, with Margaret II Countess of Flanders and Countess of Hainault
Hohenstaufen Family, Starting from Generation 27, from Marie of Hohenstaufen
The Family of Aquitaine, Starting from Generation 30, with Eleanor of Aquitaine
Welf or Guelph Family, Starting from Generation 30, with Judith of Welf or Guelph

Cousins (from the perspective of Adela and Lila)

To-do list:
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The Seltzer Family



The early generations of the Seltzer family in Germany are based on information found at Ancestry.com
From (Johann) Michael Seltzer (1740-1815) onward, the family record compiled by Ray Brehm and the information from Ancestry.com is in agreement.
See Ray Brehm's genealogy  for more detail on recent generations and collateral lines.
I've numbered each ancestor using a binary fraction system, explained elsewhere. 1 = male, 0 = female starting at the decimal point and moving to the right.  0.1 = father, 0.0 = mother; 0.11 = father's father, 0.10 = father's mother, 0.01 = mothers father; 0.00 = mother's mother.


Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007

Lila Pearl Seltzer b. May 27, 2010

daughters of

Generation 1

0.1 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer (b. July 29, 1975), Milton Academy 1993, BS Yale 1997, MBA and MS Wharton md. Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA 0.0 Stacey Denenberg (b. July 18, 1976), BS and MS Yale 1998, MBA Wharton Dennenberg Family

Robert's siblings =

Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer (b. Aug. 13, 1977 in Boston) Newton Country Day, 1995; Sarah Lawrence, 1999

Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer (b. June 14, 1980 in Boston) St. Sebastian's, Northeastern Univ.

Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer (b. Oct. 5, 1989 in Boston) Catholic Memorial, now lives in Brooklyn. 

children of

Generation 2

0.11 Richard Warren (8) Seltzer, Jr.  (b. Feb. 23 1946 Clarksville, TN) BA Yale 1969, MA U. of Mass. 1973 md. (1) July 28, 1973 Boston, MA 0.10 Barbara Ann Hartley (Feb. 20 1950 - Dec. 4 2012) Albertus Magnus 1971 Hartley Family  md. (2) Sept. 27, 2015 Orange, CT Marilyn Mandel Lender (b. Aug. 22, 1945) divorced Milford, CT, March 28, 2017


Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr. with mother Helen Estes Seltzer, July 1946, 5 months old.


Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr., at Sunnyside Avenue in Philadelphia, 1950 (four years old).

Richard's sister =

Raven (Sallie) Seltzer (b. Jan. 8, 1964 in Bristol, PA. BA Mount Holyoke, Master's in Film USC, screenwriter, singer, song writer, yoga instructor, acupuncturist. Now lives in North Carolina.

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children of

Generation 3

0.111 Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. (b. June 5, 1923 Washington, DC d. June 14, 1014 )  md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA, 0.110 Helen Estes (b. Jan. 31, 1920 Philadelphia, PAd.- Dec. 28, 2010 West Roxbury, MA) Estes Family

Richard B.A. Univ. of Md.; M.S. Univ. of Penna.; Ed.D. Univ. of Md., superintendent of schools Bristol Township, Huntingdon Valley, and Columbia, PA. autobiography and doctoral dissertation available online.


Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr., with mother Lillian Leona Seltzer in background, June 5, 1927 (4 years old).


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photo of the house he was born in -- 640 E St. NE, Washington, DC taken July 26, 1902, with Uncles Charles and his bicycle in front

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photo of Lillian, James, Richard, and Phil on the road to Myersville MD 1932

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photo of Lillila and sons Philip and Richard at home at 1234 Pinecrest Circle in Woodside Park, MD 19 January 1930

Richard's siblings =
Charles Philip Setlzer (1921-2008)
James Henry Seltzer (1928-2013)
John Paul Seltzer (1933-  )

Children of

Generation 4

0.1111 Warren Ray Seltzer (April 20, 1891 Washington, DC - April 13, 1978, Washington, DC) architect, md. June 19, 1918 0.1110 Lillian Leona Daly (Oct. 6, 1890 - April 15, 1973) Daly Family

Newspaper notice of his death:
Warren Seltzer, Retired Architect for Government
    Warren Ray Seltzer, 87, a retired government architect, died Wednesday at the National Lutheran Home in Washington after a stroke.
    He worked for the Navy's bureau of Docks and Yards, and after World War II, the Veterans Administration for 40 years before retiring in 1966.
    Mr. Seltzer was a native of Washington and graduate of McKinley Tech High School. He earned a degree in architecture at Catholic University.
    A resident of Silver Spring for 50 years, he had been active in the senior fellowship, Sunday school and choir at St. Luke Lutheran Church in Silver Spring since 1942.
    His wife, the former Lillian Daly, died in 1973.
    He is survived by four sons, the Rev. C. Philip of Marshallville, Ohio, Dr. Richard W. of Columbia, Pa., James H. of Snow Hill, Md., and the Rev. Dr. J. Paul of Syracuse, NY; 12 grandchildren, and six great-grandchildren.


Lillian Leona Daly Seltzer at 6 years old, 1896, at home at 9th and Maryland Ave. NE, Washington, DC.


Lillian Leona Daly Seltzer and Warren Ray Seltzer, married June 19, 1918.


Warren Ray Seltzer and Lillian Leona Daly Seltzer on their wedding trip to Philadelphia, June 1919.

Warren's siblings (by mother Susan) =
Charles W. Seltzer (1880-   )
Edgar Arnold Seltzer (1884-   )

children of:

Generation 5

0.11111 Henry Hocker Seltzer (Aug. 28, 1856 - Aug. 7 1925), physician,  md. (1) 1877 0.11110 Susan Arnold (April 1859 - Dec. 1916) md. (2) Oct. 18, 1918 Sarah L. Brehm (1856-).  Henry and Susan both buried in Washington, DC. 


Henry Hocker Seltzer, March 14, 1910. Photo taken at Donaldson Studio, 927 F. St. NW, Washington, DC


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Henry Hocker Seltzer 1922

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photo of schoolhouse where Henry Hocker Seltzer taught

siblings of Henry Hocker Seltzer =
mother = Barbara Smith
John P. Seltzer (1851-1922)
Martin Seltzer (1852-1934)
James M. Seltzer (1854-1855)
Elizabeth E. Seltzer (1859-1934)
Benjamin F. Seltzer (1861-1949)
Charles Augustus Seltzer (Uncle Gus) (1864-1965)
Harvey L. Seltzer (1866-1936)
mother = Anna Hocker
Henry Hocker Seltzer

children of

Generation 6

0.111111 Henry Uhland Seltzer (June 15 June, 1824 - Nov. 25, 1897; md. 0.111110 Anna Hocker (May 10, 1827 - Jan.  10, 1914)


Henry Uhland Seltzer, 1893. Photo taken at Roshon Studio, 22 South 9th St., Lebanon, PA
 

Anna Hocker Seltzer. Photo taken at M.E. Bare Photographer, Hummelstown, PA.

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photo of homestead Henry Uhland built in 1896 in Hockersville, PA

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photo taken in July 1905 of house in Hockersville where Anna was born

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Barbara Smith Hocker

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Martin Hocker

Henry Uhland Seltzer = son of

Generation 7

0.1111111 Philip Seltzer (stone mason, also cultivated a small farm which he owned) ( Dec. 6, 1772 - April 19, 1847) died of tuberculosis, buried in the Reformed cemetery at Annville, PA; md. March 25, 1800 0.1111110 Maria Uhland (Aug. 10, 1784 - Feb. 25, 1860) died  of cancer, buried Lutheran cemetery at Bellegrove, PA.

Philip Seltzer's siblings =
Anna Maria Seltzer (1771-  )
Abraham L. Seltzer (1773-1863)
Jacob Seltzer (1776-1846)
Barbara (1777-1875)
Michael Seltzer (1780-1863)
John Seltzer (1783-1856)
John George Seltzer (1813-1899)

children of:

Generation 8

0.11111111 Johann Michael Seltzer (March 23, 1740 Lutheran, Parchim, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany - 1815 Mount Zion, Lebanon, Pennsylvania) md. 0.11111110 Barbara Gasser (1748 - ). Michael arrived in Philadelphia with his father in 1752. He served in the American Revolution. His descendants qualify for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution and in the Daughters of the American Revolution.

Michael was buried in the cemetery at Zoar's Lutheran Church, Mt. Zion, Lebanon County, PA (tombstone made of native sandstone worn by the elements and illegible in 1937; per handwritten notes by Richard Seltzer, Sr., this tombstone no longer existed in 1975).

Barbara Gasser was daughter of Jacob Gasser of Helidelberg Township near Schaefferstown, Lebanon County, where he owned and cultivated 38 acres which he purchased form the Penn agents in 1735) reportedly buried in Jonestown, Lebanon County. Children: i Anna Maria ii Philip iii Jacob iv Michael Jr. v John vi Barbara

Michael and Barbara Seltzer probably established their first home in or near Schaeferstown, where their first child was born and baptized in St. Luke's Lutheran Church, of which they were members in 1771.

Michael signed the Oath of Allegiance to the American Colonies in 1778 and served as a soldier of the third class in Company 7 of the 9th Battalion of Lancaster County in 1781, under Captain Bradley and Lieutenant Adam Mark. [per handwritten notes by Richard Seltzer, Sr., spelled "Michel Selcer" on the muster roll.]

He paid a tax of eight pounds (English money) on 150 acres of land which he owned in Bethel township in 1782. Bethel township and Heidelberg township were both then in Lancaster County. When Dauphin County was created from Lancaster in 1785, Michael Seltzer and his brother Christian, both residents of Bethel township were among those who protested about Middletown becoming the county seat of Dauphin County.

On May 5, 1789, Michael and his wife Barbara purchased 166 acres of land from Archibald Sloan for 560 pounds. This was part of a larger tract granted to Samuel Sloan by the Proprietaries of Pennsylvania, on November 26, 1748. (Samuel was Chibald's uncle). This tract lies directly north of the bridge that spans the Swatara Creek at what is know as the Water Works, north of Annville, PA. On this tract, Michael Seltzer erected a house and barn. A stone in the upper part of the house has this inscription "M.S. 1802". Cross the bridge across Swatara Creek at Water Works, the farm lies on the left side of the road. Go down the lane to the creek. Here is the house, shaded by trees.

This tract is recorded in Book G., Volume 1, Page 307 in the Recorders Office, Dauphin County Court House, Harrisburg, PA, as follows: "Beginning at a F____ thence by land of Robert Young, North 50 degrees, East 174 perches, thence by land of Peter Gingrich, South 113 perches, thence by same East 18 and two tenth perches, thence by same South one and one-half degrees and 169 perches, thence down Swatara Creek 2786 perches to place of beginning."

Johann Michael's siblinlgs =
Georg Christian
Johann Jacob
Johann Phillip
Maira Eva

children of

Generation 9

0.111111111 (Johann or Hans) Jacob Seltzer (Feb. 15, 1711 - 1772) md. 1733 0.111111110 Anna Maria Welsen (   - 1769)

Immigrant. Cooper and farmer. Arrived in Pennsylvania 1752 with Wife Anna Maria Welsin; Daughter Maria Eva; Son Johann Michael; Son Johann Philipp; Son Georg Christian; Son Johann Jacob. Source: BURGERT, ANNETTE KUNSELMAN. Eighteenth Century Emigrants from German-Speaking Lands to North America. Publications of the Pennsylvania German Society, 16/19. Birdsboro, PA: The Pennsylvania German Society. Vol. 1: The Northern Kraichgau. 1983. 461p., page 341.  Shown in Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s at Ancestry.com

(Johann) Jacob = son of

Generation 10

0.1111111111 Wyerich Seltzer (1661 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Byern, Gemany - 1742 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Byern, Germany) md. 1683 Michelfeld, Ostalbkris, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany 0.111111110 Anna Catherina Neff  (1666 Michelfeld, Ostalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany - 1759 Michelfeld, Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) The Neff Family

Wyerich = son of#barbara_seltzer

Generation 11

0.11111111111 Erasmus Seltzer (1640, Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany - 1703, Michelfeld, Germany) md. 1658 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany 0.11111111110 Margaretha Donner (Dec. 27, 1638 Sundgau, Germany - June 26, 1667 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany)

Erasmus = son of

Generation 12

0.111111111111 Georg Seltzer (1604 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany - Nov. 22, 1669, Michelfled, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany) md. 1662 Michelfeld, Germany, 0.111111111110 Anna Baur (1605 Germany - 1654 Laimen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany)

Georg = son of

0.1111111111111 Ulrich Seltzer (1572 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany  - 1607 Michelfeld, Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) md. 1600 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany 0.11111111111119 Margaretha (1576 - )


Denenberg Family, Starting from Generation 1, 0.0  Stacey Denenberg

0.0 Stacey A. Denenberg (b. July 18, 1976) md. Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston 0.1 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer (b. July 29, 1975)

sibling =
Scott  A. Denenberg md. in Cambridge, MA July 7, 2018 Emily Lilly

children of -

0.01 Jeffrey Neil Denenberg (b. March 21, 1943) md. 0.00 Charlotte G. (b. Sept. 21, 1947)

Jeffrey = son of

Joseph B. Denenberg of Omaha, NE md. Beatrice P.

siblings =
Burton H. Denenberg md. Judy Sklair
Alan Denenberg md. (1) Mary Lou Zittman md. (2) Vicki Brown



Hartley Family, Starting from Generation 2, 0.10 Barbara Ann Hartley

0.10 Barbara Ann Hartley (Feb. 20, 1950 - Dec. 4, 2014) md. July 28, 1973 Boston, MA   Richard Warren Seltzer, Jr. (b. Feb. 23, 1946)

siblings =
Mary Jane Hartley (b. 1937) md. John Carew (1936-1990)
Elynor E. Hartley (b. 1939) md. Alan Harrington (c. 1995)
Ann Frances Hartley (1941-2007)
Charles F. Hartley (1943-  ) md. (1) Elaine Ginty md. (2) Mary Picard) md. (3) Raven Seltzer
Robert J. Hartley (1947-1968, Viet Nam)

children of

0.101 Charles Hartley (1911-1992) md. Mary Wilson (1914-2005) Wilson Family

sibling =
Lillian Margaret Hartley ("Wooie") (Aug. 17, 1915 - July 1, 1999) md. Albert Francis Wilson ("Pappy") (July 12, 1911 - Feb. 28, 1991)

children of

0.1011 John M. Hartley (b. 1885  St. John's Newfoundland) md.0.1010  Ellen (Nell) Elizabeth Davis (1883-1955) Davis Family

son of

0.10111 John M. S. Hartley, Ireland md. Margaret Moore



The Estes Family, Starting from Generation 3, 0.110 Helen Estes

See Cary-Estes Genealogy and Cary-Estes-Moore Genealogy.

0.110 Helen Estes (b. Jan. 31, 1920 Philadelphia, PA d. Dec. 28, 2010, West Roxbury, MA) md. June 5, 1944 at Redeemer Lutheran Church, Philadelphia, PA, 0.111 Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. (June 5, 1923 Washington, DC - June 14. 2014. West Roxbury, MA) ) 

Helen was the 
compiler and author of CARY-ESTES-MOORE GENEALOGY; graduate of Pierce Jr. College, Philadelphia; attended Temple Univ., Philadelphia, Univ. of Md,. and Plymouth State College, Plymouth, N.H.; B.A. (English) Goddard College, Plainfield, Vt.; former English teacher, cert. in Vt. and Penna.; member of National Society Colonial Dames of America, Philadelphia Chapter. Daughters of the American Revolution, American Association of University Women, League of Women Voters; on Board of Directors of Alumnae Association Philadelphia High School for Girls.

her siblings =
John Griffith Estes (Jack) (Sept. 27, 1908- Nov. 30, 1961 ) served in Army in WW II,
worked as night watchman, died of cancer of lungs and bone, buried West Laurel Hill Cemetery, Bala Cynwyd, PA
Lewis Stanley Estes (March 31, 1911- Aug. 9, 1978, Philadelphia) foreman at mill md. Jean Brulinski (b. June 18, 1922)
Lillian Margaret Estes (Lily) (b. Dec. 12, 1909) md. 1929 William Norris Moyer, Jr.
Virginia Griffith Estes (b. Jan. 13, 1914-2000) md. June 12, 1937 Edward Robert Jacoby, Jr. (b. June 27, 1914 d. Jan. 1, 1974) (son of Edward Robert and Catherine Melissa Wallace Jacoby)
Agnes Griffith Estes (b. August 20, 1915 in Philadelphia) md. Sept. 3, 1938 George John Meyers, Jr. (b. May 23, 1916 in Philadelphia) printer (son of George Jan and Susan McGettigan Meyers)
Mildred Elizabeth Estes (b. July 20, 1922 in Philadelphia) md. (1) March 3, 1943 in Philadelphia James Glisson Brinton (1920-1944, killed in action at Cassino, Italy), md. (2) 1947 Walter Taney Rowland (b. Dec. 30, 1917, in Prospect Park, PA d. Sept. 16, 1969 in Somers Point, NJ) yacht builder and ship supply salesman (son of Albert Theodore Betson and Harriet Ogden Willington Rowland)
Smyth William, stillborn
June 16, 1925

Generation 4

0.1101 Smyth William Estes (June 17, 1881 Brownsville, Haywood, TN - Dec. 20, 1943 Brownsville, Haywood TN) md. Nov. 29, 1906, Philadelphia, PA 0.1100 Mae Griffith (May 27, 1883 Philadelphia, PA - May 27, 1930 Philadelphia, PA) Giffith Family

Smyth William Estes died of chronic endocarditis, contributed by hypertension and chronic inst. nephitis (picture of his gravestone), per death certificate.


his siblings =
Mary Moore  Estes (1876-  )
Mildred C. Estes (1879-1938)
Belle Estes (1883-1938)
Laurence B. Estes (1885-1962
Sallie Estes (1888-1981)
Warner W. Estes (1890-  )

children of

Generation 5

0.11011 Louis (Lewis) Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Eliza "Lilly" Yates Moore (1853-1929)

Physician and also large land owner.

his siblings =
with Elizabeth Alston Pickett -
Sarah Elizabeth Estes (March 13, 1835 - March 26, 1925)
Pocahontas Estes (Feb. 2, 1837 - 1906)
Albert Monroe Estes Jr. (April 21, 1838 - Oct. 14, 1877)
Anne Lynne Estes (Nov. 12, 1839 - Feb. 13, 1926)
Thomas Hale Estes (Nov. 10, 1843 - 1902)
with Marcia Burton (Owen) Holman -
William Lawrence Estes (Nov. 28, 1855 - Nov. 1903), Bethel College, KY 1872; Medical Dept. U. of VA 1877; Univ. College of NY 1878; Surgeon in Chief, St. Luke's Hospital, Bethlehem, PA from 1881, Lecturer on Physiology and Hygiene, Lehigh U.; author of medical books)
with Mildred Colman -
Louis (Lewis) Powhatan Estes

children of

Generation 6

0.110111 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 - Dec. 22, 1863) md. (1) Nov. 22, 1832 in Haywood County, TN Elizabeth Alston Pickett (Dec. 16, 1811 - Nov. 16, 1843) md. Nov. 17, 1848 (2) Mildred Colman (1823 - Nov. 30, 1849) md. (3) Dec. 20. 1854 Marcia Burton (Owen) Holman (widow)

Enlisted in Confederate Army May 23, 1872. Seventh (Duckworth's) Cavalry Regiment, rank at enlistment = private

his siblings =
Moreau Pinckney Estes (Nov. 14, 1806 - Oct. 17, 1871)
Henry Carey Estes (Jan. 9, 1808 - winter of 1835)
Virginia Thorp Estes (May 11, 1811 - 1860)
Eliza Jane Estes (Nov. 15, 1815 -  )
Cornelia Sarah Rebecca Estes (Feb.14, 1818 -  )
Judith Bell Estes (March 10, 1821 - June 28, 1903)
Sarah Ann Estes (Nov. 24, 1823 - June 30, 1848)

children of

Generation 7

0.1101111 Joel Estes (Jan. 22, 1780 - Aug. 16, 1833) md. Oct. 13, 1801 0.1101110 Sarah Langhorne Bates Bates Family

captain in War of 1812, commanded a company of volunteers, riflemen from the 43 Regiment VA Militiaand then attached to the 4th Regiment. Began service Sept. 16, 1813. Muster Roll dated Norfolk, VA Oct. 15, 1813 (= date of expiration of service)

his siblings =
Triplet Thorpe Estes (1778-1852)
John H. T. Estes (1816, first lieutenant of light artillery July 1, 1808, captain September 1809, resigned April 1, 1812
Benjamin Estes. (  -1868), captain
Thomas Estes (d. in St. Louis, MO)
William Estes (lived in Petesburg, VA, d. in Mississippi)
Edward Estes (d. in Campbel Co., VA)
Elisha W. Estes ( d. in KY)
Thorp Estes (d. in TN)
Nancy Estes (b. in VA, d. in KY)
Elizabeth Estes (b. in VA, d. in Kanawaha Co., WV)
Lucy Estes (b. in VA, d. in Shelbyville, KY)
Cecilia Estes (b. in VA, d. in MO)
Sarah Ann Estes (b. in VA, d. in MO)
Martha Estes (b. in VA, d. in Bedford Co. VA)

Generation 8

0.11011111 Benjamin Estes (1753 probably in Spotsylvania County, VA - July 22, 1816) md. 1777 Cecelia Rebecca Thorp (Thorpe) (1750 - 1816)

Generation 9

Abraham Estes, Jr. (1697-1759) md. Elizabeth Jeeter


Generation 10


Abraham Estes, Sr. (1647-1720), emigrated from Ringwould, Kent England to St. Stephens, King Queen County, Virginia  md. Barbara Brock


Generation 11


Sylvester Estes (1596-1667) md. Ellen Martin


Generation 12


Robert Estes (1555-1616) Ringwould, Kent, England md. Anne Woodward


Generation 13


Sylvester Estes (1522-1579) born Deal, Kent, England died Ringwould, Kent, England md. Jone Estes


Generation 14

Nicholas Estes (1495-1533) md. Anny ___


Generation 15


Robert Estes (1475-1506)


Generation 16
 

Francesco or Francisco Estes AKA Francesco or  Francisco Esteuse, born in Italy and died in England (1440 - ?)


Generation 17


Leonello d'Este, Marquess of Ferrara etc. (1407-1450)


Leonello d'Este was the illegitimate son of Niccolo III, d'Este, Marquis of Ferrara. See Wikipedia articles on Leonello and on Niccolo. Francisco Esteuse, AKA Francisco Estes was his son. Some sources give Robert Estes as his son, but the dates don't work.  It seems highly likely that Robert was the son of Francisco (AKA Francesco)and grandson of Leonello.  That would confirm family tradition, as recounted in the Cary-Estes Genealogy (by May Folk Webb and Patrick Mann Estes, published in 1939 and reprinted in 1979).  Facing page 92 is a portrait of Francesco Esteuse with the caption "'Franceso, natural son of Marquis Leonnello, went to Burgundy and afterward to England.' These were the words written on the back of the picutre of Francesco found in a colleciton of paintings near Ferrara, among the pictures of Esteuse."

According to the Wikipedia article on the House of Este http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Este

"The lordship of Ferrara was made hereditary by Obizzo II (d. 1293) who was proclaimed Lord of Ferrara in 1264, Lord of Modena 1288 and Lord of Reggio 1289. Ferrara being a papal fief, the Este family were given the position of hereditary papal vicars in 1332.

"Ferrara became a significant center of culture under Niccolò d'Este III (1384–1441), who received several popes with great magnificence, especially Eugene IV, who held a Council here in 1438,later known as the Council of Florence.

"His successors were Leonello (1407–1450) and Borso (1413–1471), who was elevated to Duke of Modena and Reggio by Emperor Frederick III in 1452 and in return received these duchies as imperial fiefs. In 1471 he received the duchy of Ferrara as papal fief from Pope Paul II, for which occasion splendid frescoes were executed at Palazzo Schifanoia."

[NB -- Leonello was my mother's ancestor, as was Niccolo III. Both Leonello and his brother Borso were illegitimate sons (the mother of both was Stella de' Tolome. Leonello, as the eldest, became Marquess of Ferrara on his father's death. On the death of Leonello, for reasons unknown, his brother Borso, instead of his son Francesco became Marquess. And Francesco fled to northern Europe, eventually settling in England. Considering the culture of violence in that time and place, he probably fled for his life. Here are more details from Wikipedia about the collateral relatives -- Borso and his son Alfonso:

"Under Ercole (1431–1505), [brother of Leonello] one of the most significant patrons of the arts in late 15th and early 16th century Italy, Ferrara grew into a cultural center, renowned especially for music; Josquin Des Prez worked for Duke Ercole, Jacob Obrecht came to Ferrara twice, and Antoine Brumel served as principal musician from 1505. Ercole's daughter Beatrice (1475–1497) married Ludovico Sforza, Duke of Milan, while his daughter Isabella (1474–1539) married Francesco Gonzaga, Marquess of Mantua.

"Ercole I's successor was his son Alfonso I (1476–1534), third husband of the notorious Lucrezia Borgia and the patron of Aiosto."  [In other words, a nephew of Mom's ancestor married Lucrezia Borgia.]


Generation 18


Nicollo III d'Este, Marquess of Ferrara etc. (1383-1441)


Generation 19

Alberto I d'Este, Marquess of Ferrara (1347-1393)


Generation 20


Obizzo III d'Este,  Marquess of Ferrara (1294-1352)


Generation 21


Aldobrandino II, Marquess of Ferrara (d. 1326)


Generation 22


Obizzo II d'Este, Marquess of Ferrara (1247-1293)


Generation 23


Rinaldo I d'Este


Generation 24


Azzo VII d'Este


Generation 25


Azzo VI d'Este, Marquess of Este (1170-1212)


Generation 26


Azzo V d'Este (d. 1190)


Generation 27


Fulco I (d. 1128)


Generation 28


Albert Azzo II of Este (c. 997 - c. 1097), Margrave of Milan and Liguria, Count of Gavello and Padua, Rovigo, Unigiana, Monselice, and Montagnana; founder of the House of Este (named for a town in Padua), around 1073 he made a castle at Este his residence from which the House of Este takes its name md. around 1035 Chuniza of Altdorf, daughter of Welf II Count of Altdof [more to come]


Alberto Azzo II, Margrave of Milan (996-1097) built a castle at Este, near Padua and named himself after it

for details see http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MODENA,%20FERRARA.htm#AlbertoAzzoIdied1029B

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Alberto Azzo Von Este, Marquis of Este d. 1098 md. (1) 1040 to Cunissa (or Cunagonda), dau. of Guelph III, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 1020; son of Guelph II, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 980; son of Rudolph I, Duke of Lower Bavaria; son of Henry II; son of Henry I; son of Guelph the First, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 820]

[through a different line [Fleming to Capet, to Brabant, to Hohenstaufen, to Welf or Guelf] we are also descended from Alberto Azzo II by way of another of  sons -- Welf I, Duke of Bavaria]

Generation 29

Alberto Azzo I, Margrave of Milan (d. 1029


Generation 30

Oberto II, Margrave of Milan  (d. after 1014)md. Railend


Generation 31


Oberto I, Margrave of Milan (d. 975)
(d. Oct. 15, 975), founder of the Obertenghi family, Count of Milan from 951


Generation 32

Adalbert, Margrave of Mila, 
(Obertenghi or Adalbertnii)  (b. c. 970, d. before 1018 or in 1029) Frankish nobility who settled in Lombardy


The Wilson Family, Starting from Generation 3, 0.100 Mary Wilson

0.100  Mary Wilson (1914-2005) md 0.101 Charles Hartley (1911-1992)

siblings =
Albert Francis Wilson (1911-1991) md. Lillian ("Wooie") Hartley 1915-1999)
Edward J. Wilson (1917 -  )

Generation 4

0.1001 Albert Andrew Anthony Wilson (1883 Manchester, England -1925 Boston, MA) md. April 23, 1905 0.1000 Mary Jane Gillespie (1881-1935) Gillespie Family

Generation 5

0.10011 George Rutledge Wilson (1837 Essex, England -  1895, Mount Benedict Cemetery, West Roxbury, MA) md. Margaret O'Brien (1848 London -1910, Mount Benedict Cemetery, West Roxbury)




The Daly Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1110 Lillian Leona Daly

0.1110 Lillian Leona Daly (Oct. 6, 1890 - April 15, 1973 md. June 19, 1918  0.1111 Warren Ray Seltzer (April 20, 1891 Washington, DC - April 13, 1978, Washington, DC) architect

her siblings =
John Milton (6) Daly died at 94 years old

Mabel May (6) Daly b. 18 January 1888, d. August 1947; md. Wood

Harry Wesley (6) Daly b. 29 September 1883, d. 27 June  1959

William Washington (6) Daly, Jr. (6) b. 7 September 1884, d. 10 July 1938

Edwin Earl (6) Daly b. 1889, d. 1973
Adolph A. (6) Daly b. 29 January 1895, d. 1 March 1973

Margaret Adele (6) Daly b. 20 January 1897, d. 27 May  1995 (98 years); md. Miller

Amy A. (6) Daly b. 6 October 1885, d. 14 April 1888

Edna E. (6) Daly b. 17 November 1886, d. 8 July 1888

children of

Generation 5

0.11101 William Washington Daly, Sr. md. Margaret Matilda Thour.

son of

Generation 6

0.111011 John Michael Daly b. 23 May 1830 in Dublin, Ireland, d. 4 February 1904 in Norfolk, VA; md. (1) Amanda Baker of Philadelphia (granddaughter of Mary Lauderbach) b. 20 October 1835 in Philadelphia, d. 1884; md. (2)  Mary Quinen.

his siblings =
John died young
James b. 21 September 1826 in Dublin
Alice b. 28 October 1828 in Kilbeggan
Jane b. 5 October 1833 in Kilbeggan
Agnes b. 7 June 1835 in Dublin
William b. April 3 (year?) died young
Thomas b. 18 September 1839 in Philadelphia md. Sept. 19, 1860 Carolline M. Wilson, children = Harry, Athalia, Kerfoot; granddaughter Mary Violet Daly MacFarland (1904-2002), her daughter = Mrs. Bruce Wilson
Mary Jane died young
Margaret died young
William Hudson b. 11 July 1842 in Indiana County
Patrick died young
Mary Ellen b. 29 June 1848 in Wilmington, Delaware

children of

Generation 7

0.1110111 Thomas Daly (Feb. 20, 1792 - 1858) at the Gibsonton distillery near Charleroi, PA md. 18 June 1822 in St. Paul's Catholic Church, Arran Quay, Dublin, by Rev. Gormley, 0/1110110 Mary Maher.

his siblings =

Catharine Daly b. 7 March 1791, died young
Thomas Daly b. 20 February 1792,
Jane Daly b. 24 July 1793,
James Daly b. 3 December 1794, died young
Alice Daly b. 16 December 1797, d. September 1811.


children of

Generation 8

0.11101111 John Daly
d. 22 May 1806; md. 0.11101110 Alice Wheeler 25 June 1789.


Generation 9

0.111011111 Patrick (1) Daly
, b. 13 May 1724, Athlone, Ireland




The Gillespie Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1000 Mary Jane Gillespie

0.1000 Mary Jane Gillespie (1881-1935) md. April 23, 1905 0.1001 Albert Andrew Anthony Wilson (1883 Manchester, England -1925 Boston, MA)

daughter of

Generation 5

0.10001 Thomas F. Gillespie (b. 1850) md. 0.10000 Mary Jane Kreuger (b. 1850)



The Davis Family, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1010 Nell Davis

0.1010  Ellen (Nell) Elizabeth Davis (1883-1955) md. 0.1011 John M. Hartley (b. 1885  St. John's Newfoundland)

daughter of

Generation 5

Francis Davis (b. 1840 Linton, Herefordshire d. Oct. 6,1913 Whitbourne, Hereford) md. Mary Donovan

son of

Generation 6

James Davis (b. 1804) md. Mary Wilson (b. 1806)





The Griffith Family of North Wales, Starting from Generation 4, 0.1100 Mae Griffith

0.1100 Mae Griffith (May 27, 1883 Philadelphia, PA - May 27, 1930 Philadelphia, PA) md. Nov. 29, 1906, Philadelphia, PA  0.1101 Smyth William Estes (June 17, 1881 Brownsville, Haywood, TN - Dec. 20, 1943 Brownsville, Haywood TN)

siblings =
Elizabeth Rachel Griffith born in Cork, April 27, 1869 (had nervous breakdown in teens, put in insane asylum where she died in the 1950s)
Isabella Agnes Griffith, born in Cork, July 18, 1870, never married, with sister Lillian raised the children of sister Mae Griffith and Smith William Estes after Mae's death
Thomas Owen Griffith, born in Philadelphia April 21, 1873, disappeared (ran away from home)
Lillian Griffith, born in Philadlephia, Nov. 9, 1875, never married, with sister Agnes raised the children of sister Mae Griffith and Smith William Estes after Mae's death
Griffith Owen Griffith, born in Philadlephia, Aug. 28, 1877 (hit by pipe, spent rest of life in insane asylum)
David Griffith, born in Philadelphia Jan. 3, 1879 died of heart trouble md. Florence Van Hart (daughter of mayor of Camden, New Jersey); their children: Lilly May Griffith, died of heart trouble, and Isabella Griffith, fell down stairs as a little girl and after that her eyes were crossed
George Bogan Griffith, born in Philadelphia, Jun 1, 1885, died 1904 of typhoid fever
Stanley Griffith, born in Philadelphia, Aug. 6, 1890, measles caused one eye to be closed, died of alcoholism


half-sibling (daughter of Ann Jane Williams) =
Annie Jane (b. Jan. 28, 1867, d. 1950s)


daughter of

Generation 5

0.11001 Griffith Owen Griffith (b. Sept. 22, 1837 in Pen y Crag, Llengefni, Anglesee, North Wales) md. (1) April 3, 1866 at Bangor Cathedral, North Wales, Ann Jane Williams (b. Sept. 23, 1837 at Bearnmaris d. Feb. 18, 1867) md. (2) 0.11000 Isabella Bogan (1848-1914) Bogan Family
Griffith and Isabella emigrated to Philadelphia where Griffith became manager of a tea company store.

son of

Generation 6

0.110011 Owen Griffith (1795-1888) md. 0.110010 Ann Humphreys (1796-1887) (daughter of 0.1100101 David Humphreys)




The Bogan Family of Cork, Ireland, Starting from Generation 5, 0.11000 Isabella Bogan


0.11000 Isabella Bogan (1848-1914 md.
at Wesley Chapel, Patrick St., Cork, Ireland Feb. 18, 1868  0.11001 Griffith Owen Griffith (1837-  ) 

siblings =
James Lillian Bogan md. Elizabeth H.
William Mullins Bogan married Agnes ___
Amos Frederick Bogan died 1905 md. Annie Vearian

children of

Generation 6

James Bogan, silk manufacturer md. ____

son of

Generation 7

_____ Bogan md. ____ Lillie

son of

Generation 8

John Lillie, master gunner, Charles Fort (1780 - Jan. 18, 1856)

source: Ringcurran Church, Kinsale; Blackrock cemetery; St. Lukes; St. Multros, Kinsale (Rev. Gibson), tombstone at Ringcurran reads: "John Lillie, master gunner, Charles [Fort], died Jan. 18, 1856, aged 76 years, erected as a tribute to affection by his grandson James Bogan  Church and cemetery records mention Jane, daughter of John and Julia Lillie (master gunner Charles Fort) born June 12, 1851, Isabella Gordon Lillie, daughter of John and Julia Lillie (master gunner, Charles Fort) born Sept. 16, 1854 and died June 23, 1881, aged 27 (tombstone says died June 20, aged 25, and erected by her sorrowing sister M. de Montmorency)


The Bates Family, Starting from Generation 7, 0.1101119 Sarah Langhorne Bates

0.1101110 Sarah Langhorne Bates md. Oct. 13, 1801  0.1101111 Joel Estes (Jan. 22, 1780 - Aug. 16, 1833)

daughter of

Generation 8

0.11011101 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776 in Chesterfield County, VA 0.11011100 Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary

son of

Generation 9

 
0.110111011 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA   0.110111010 Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)

son of

Generation 10

0.1101110111 John Bates (1685-1723) md. about 1709 0.1101110110 Susannah Tarleton Fleming Fleming Family


The Fleming Family, Starting from Generation 10, 0.1101110110 Susannah Tarleton Fleming

0.1101110110 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709  0.1101110111 John Bates (1685-1723)

daughter of

Generation 11

0.11011101101 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. 0.11011101100 Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Colonel Charles was born on December 10th, 1659 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va.  Colonel Charles' father was John FLEMMING and his mother was Mrs. Mercy Or Mary FLEMING.  His paternal grandparents were Captain Alexander FLEMING and Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. He had four brothers and a sister, named William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia.  He died at the age of 57 on October 7th, 1717 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.

"Susanna was born in Of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.  Susanna's father was Stephen TARLETON and her mother is Susanna. She had a sister named Judith.  She died after October 7th, 1717 in St.peters Parish, New Kent.

"Colonel Charles and Susanna were married in a religious ceremony in New Kent, Virginia.  They had two sons and eight daughters, named Colonel John, Tarleton, Susannah, Elizabeth, Judith, Ursula, Anne, Grace, Anne and Sarah.

son of

Generation 12

0.110111011011 John Fleming (b. 1627 Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register)

Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 86 indicates that according to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___.  She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton."  John Fleming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born in 1627 in Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  John's father was Captain Alexander FLEMING and his mother was Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON.  His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Margaret LIVINGSTON; his maternal grandparents are William ANDERSON and MRS. ANDERSON. He had a brother and two sisters, named John, Elizabeth and Alexia.  He died at the age of 59 on April 27th, 1686 in Charles Parish, York Co., Virginia.  His burial was on April 30th, 1686 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.

"Mrs. Mercy or Mary was born about 1637 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va.  She died in , New Kent, Va.

"John and Mrs. Mercy or Mary were married in a religious ceremony in , , , England.  They had five sons and a daughter, named Colonel Charles, William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia."

son of

Generation 13

0.1101110110111 Alexander Fleming (b. 1612 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Dec. 30, 1668 Rappahannock Co., VA) md. 0.1101110110110 Elizabeth (AKA Elspet) Anderson (b. 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Oct. 6, 1656 Rappahannock Co., VA)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Captain Alexander was born about 1612 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Captain Alexander's father was John FLEMING and his mother was Margaret LIVINGSTON.  His paternal grandparents were John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and Lillias Lilias GRAHAM; his maternal grandfather was Alexander LIVINGSTON and his maternal grandmother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. He had two brothers and six sisters, named John, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.  He died on December 30th, 1668 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.

"Elizabeth (Elspet) was born about 1614 in Of Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Elizabeth (Elspet)'s father is William ANDERSON and her mother is MRS. ANDERSON.  Her paternal grandfather is John ANDERSON.  She was an only child.  She died on October 6th, 1656 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.

"Captain Alexander and Elizabeth (Elspet) were married in a religious ceremony about 1632 in Scotland.  They had two sons and two daughters, named John, John, Elizabeth and Alexia."

son of

Generation 14

0.11011101101111 John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. 0.1101110110110 Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634)  Livingston Family

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland.  John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM.  His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel.  He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  His burial was in Scotland.

"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland.  Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY.  Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna.  She died in  1634.

"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland.  They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.

John = son of

Generation 15

0.110111011011111 Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,  first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 md. 0.110111011011110 Lilias Graham  Graham Family 

The Cary Estes Geneaology p. 86 quotes "Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:

"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose.  Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to promote the principles of the Reformation.  Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.  While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"

"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldest son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.

"He [the son, the Second Earl of Wigton] married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband.  They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)

John = son of

Generation 16

0.1101110110111111 John Fleming, 5th Lord Fleming  (b. 1537 Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Sept. 6, 1572 Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland)   [Overlapping line.  We are also descended from his sister Margaret] md. May 10, 1562  0.1101110110111110 Elizabeth Ross (b. 1541 Halkhead, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. April 14, 1578, Scotland), daughter of Robert Ross md. Agnes Moncrieff

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John Fleming was born about 1537 in Bigger, L, Scot, Bi.  John Fleming's father was Malcolm FLEMING and his mother was Janet STEWART.  His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Euphame DRUMMOND; his maternal grandparents were James IV King Of SCOTLAND and Agnes STEWART. He had three brothers and six sisters, named John, James, William, Margaret, Elizabeth, Johanna Or Joan, Janet, Agnes and Mary.  He died on September 6th, 1572 in Bigger, L, Scot, Bi.  His burial was in Scotland.

"Elizabeth was born about 1541 in Of Halkhead, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Elizabeth's father was Robert Ross MASTER and her mother is Agnes MONCRIEFF.  Her paternal grandparents are Ninian ROSS and Janet (Elizabeth) (Stuart) STEWART.  She was an only child.  She died on April 14th, 1578 in , Scot, Bi.

John Fleming and Elizabeth were married in a religious ceremony on May 10th, 1562 in Bigger, L, Scot, Bi.  They had a son and six daughters, named John 1St Earl Wigton, Jean, Margaret, Elizabeth, Lucrece, Mary and Jane."

John = son of

Generation 17

0.11011101101111111 Malcolm Fleming (c. 1494 - Sept. 10, 1547) 3rd Lord Fleming md. 0.11011101101111110 Lady Janet Stewart (1502-1562, illegitimate daughter of King James IV of Scotland. Second Stewart Family

According to Wikipedia: "Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming (c.1494 - 10 September 1547) son and heir of John Fleming, 2nd Lord Fleming, Lord Chamberlain of Scotland 1524. He was taken prisoner by the English at the Battle of Solway Moss, Nov 1542, but released at a ransom of 1000 marks on 1 July 1548. He was granted a dispensation on 26 February 1524/5, and subsequently married Lady Janet Stewart, illegitimate daughter of King James IV of Scotland He died 10 September 1547, in his 53rd year, being slain at the Battle of Pinkie."

Malcolm = son of

Generation 18

0.110111011011111111 John Fleming (b. 1465 Biggar and Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Nov. 1, 1524) 2nd Lord Fleming, Lord Chamberlain of Scotland in 1524 md. 0.110111011011111110 Eupheme Drummond (b. 1467 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. May 1502 Perthshire, Scotland), daughter of John Drummond (1438-1519) md. Elizabeth Lindsay (1445-1519)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born in 1465 in Of Biggar & Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scot.  John's father was Malcolm FLEMING and his mother is Euphame LIVINGSTONE. He had a brother and two sisters, named David, Elizabeth and Isobel.  He died at the age of 59 on November 1st, 1524.

Euphame was born about 1467 in , Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Euphame's father was John DRUMMOND and her mother was Elizabeth LINDSAY. She had a brother and four sisters, named William, Annabel, Elizabeth, Margaret and Beatrix.  She died in May 1502 in , , Perthshire, Scotland.  Her burial was in , Dunblane, Perthshire, Scotland."

John = son of

Generation 19

0.1101110110111111111 Malcolm Fleming (b. 1437 in Biggar, Lanark, Scotland d. 1477) md. 0.1101110110111111110 Euphame Livingstone

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Malcolm and Euphame were married in a religious ceremony before April 2nd, 1472.  They had two sons and two daughters, named David, John, Elizabeth and Isobel."

Malcolm = son of

Generation 20

0.11011101101111111111 Robert Fleming  1st Lord Fleming (1416 - 1491) md. 1436 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland 0.11011101101111111110 Janet Douglas (1420-1437) Second Douglas Family
[ancestry.com]

According to thePeerage.com: "Robert Fleming, Lord Fleming was the son of Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar and Cumbernauld and Elizabeth Stewart He married, firstly, Lady Janet Douglas, daughter of James Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas and Beatrice Sinclair. He married, secondly, Margaret Lindsay, daughter of John Lindsay. He died in 1491.  Robert Fleming, Lord Fleming gained the title of Lord."

Robert = son of

Generation 21

0.110111011011111111111 Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar and Cumbernauld  (1383 - 1440, executed) md. before June 28, 1413 0.110111011011111111110 Elizabeth Stewart  daughter of Robert Stewart 1st Duke of Albany and Muriel Keith [Her line]
[ancestry.com]

According to thePeerage.com: " Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar and Cumbernauld married Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany and Muriel Keith, before 28 June 1413.2 He died in 1440, executed.

Malcolm = son of

Generation 22

0.1101110110111111111111 David Fleming (b. 1343 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, d. Feb. 14, 1406 in Edinburgh, Mid-Lothian, Scotland) md. 0.1101110110111111111110 Isabel Strathechin (1347-1382)
[ancestry.com]

David = son of

Generation 23

0.11011101101111111111111  Malcolm Fleming (b. 1312 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Sept. 1, 1382 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. 0.11011101101111111111110 Christian Fleming (b. April 1323 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, d. 1400 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland)
[ancestry.com]

Malcolm = son of

Generation 24

0.110111011011111111111111 Patrick Fleming (1286-1306) md. 0.110111011011111111111110 Joan Fraser (1290-1312)
[ancestry.com]

Patrick = son of

Generation 25

0.1101110110111111111111111 Robert Fleming (b. 1252 in Bratton, Scotland d. 1314 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. 0.1101110110111111111111110 Joan Douglad (b. 1258 in Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland d. 1307)


The Neff Family, Starting from Generation 10, 0.111111110 Anna Catherina Neff

0.111111110 Anna Catherina Neff  (1666) Michelfeld, Ostalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany - 1759 Michelfeld, Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) md. 1683 Michelfeld, Ostalbkris, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany 0.111111110 Wyerich Seltzer (1661 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Gemany - 1742 Michelfeld, Amberg-Sulzbach, Bayern, Germany)

Anna = daughter of

Generation 11

Rudolf Neff (1622 Hausen am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1677 Michelfeld, Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) md. 1648 Affoltern, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland, Regina Zimmerman (1629-1679)  Zimmerman Family

Rudolf = son of

Generation 12

Felix Naf (1587 Hausen, Bern, Switzerland - 1649 Affoltern, Am Albis, Zurich, Switzerland) md. 1607 Heish, Se, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland Anna Ringer (1591 - 1628) Ringer Family

Felix = son of

Generation 13

Ulrich Naf (1550 Heisch, Hasen am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1591 Hausen, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland) md. Hausen, Se, Zurich, Switzerland Verena Huber

Ulrich = son of

Generation 14

Marx Naf (1500 Vollenweid, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1571 Heisch, Hausen Am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland)

Marx = son of

Generation 15

Hans Naf (1467 - 1531) md. Katherina Huber (1470 - 1504)

Generation 16

Hans = son of

Generation 17

Hans Naf (1430 Hausen, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1500 Rengg, Switzerland) md. 1467

Hans = son of

Generation 18

Heinrich Neff (1388 Rengg Langnau, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1448 Rengg, Switzerland) md 1429 Switzerland, Verena (1388 - 1455)

Heinrich = son of

Generation 19

Hans Neff (1366 langnau, Zurich, Switzerland - 1406 Rengg, Switzerland)


Line Starting from Generation 11, Regina Zimmerman

Regina Zimmerman (b. Dec. 13, 1629 Affolturn, Zurich Canton, Switzerland d. Sept. 3, 1679 Duhren, Switzerland) md. 1648 Affoltern, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland,  Rudolf Neff (1622 Hausen am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1677 Michelfeld, Heidelberg, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany)

Regina = daughter of

Generation 12

Caspar Zimmerman (b. July 9, 1594 Albis, Zurich Canton, Switzerland d. Dec. 2, 1681 Affolturn, Zurich Canton, Switzerland) md. Nov. 20, 1627 Anna Lussi (b. Nov. 30, 1608 Affolturn, Zurich Canton Switzerland d. April 9, 1644, Affoltern, Am Albis, Zurich Canton, Switzerland)

Anna = daughter of

Generation 13

Heini Lusi (b.1580, Affoltern, Zurich Canton, Switzerland) md. Sept. 28, 1606 Affoltern, Zurich Canton, Switzerland, Barbeli Vollenweider (b. 1581, Affoltern, Zurich Canton, Switzerland), daughter of Heini Vollenwider (b. 1565, Affoltern, Zurich, Switzerland) md. 1597 Affolturn, Zurich Canton, Switzerland, Anna Schurpin (b. 1565)


Line Starting from Generation 12, Anna Ringer

Anna Ringer (1591 Affoltern, am Albis,Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1628 Affoltern, am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland) md. 1607 Heish, Se, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland, Felix Naf (1587 Hausen, Bern, Switzerland - 1649 Affoltern, Am Albis, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland)

Anna = daughter of

Generation 13

Oswald Ringger (1565 Hausen Se, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland -1630 Hausen, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland) md. Anna Blickenstorfer (1573 Stalikon, Canton of  Zurich, Switzerland - )

Oswald = son of

Generation 14

Rudolf Ringger (1520 Maschwanden, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1587 Hausen Am Albis Canton of Zurich, Switzerland) md. 1542 Canton Zurich, Switzerland, Barbara Egli

Rudolf = son of

Generation 15

Jorg Ringger (1480 Maschwanden, Canton of  Zurich, Switzerland - )

Jorg = son of

Generation 16

Werner Ringger (1456 Schwamendingen, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1480 Hoff, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland)

Werner = son of

Generation 17

Hans Ringger (1412 Schwamendingen, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1487 Maschwanden, Canton of Zurich) md. Kathrinen (1426 Switzerland - )

Hans = son of

Generation 18

Heini Ringger (1385 Osd, Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1453)

Heini = son of

Generation 19

19 Rudolf Ringger (1350 Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1385)

Rudolf = son of

Generation 20

Uli Ringger (1333 Canton of Zurich, Switzerland - 1370)

Uli = son of

Generation 21

Ringer (b. 1288) md. ? (b. 1292) 


The Livingston Family, Starting from Generation 14, 0.1101110110110 Margaret Livingston

0.1101110110110 Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634) md. John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland.  John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM.  His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel.  He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  His burial was in Scotland.

"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland.  Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY.  Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna.  She died in  1634.

"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland.  They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.

Margaret = daughter of

Generation 15

0.11011101101101 Alexander Livingston (1561-1621) md. 0.11011101101100 Eleanor Hay (1565-1630)

Alexander = son of

Generation 16

0.110111011011011 William Livingston (1528-1502), 6th Lord Livingston of Callandar  md. 0.1101110110110110 Agnes Fleming  (1535-1597) 

His father was guardian of Mary, queen of Scots during her childhood and his sister Mary Livingston was on of the four attendants of Mary, queen of Scots. He fought for Queen May at the Battle of Langside in 1568.

William = son of

Generation 17

0.1101110110110111 Alexander Livingston (1500-1551), 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar md. 0.1101110110110110  Agnes Douglas First Douglas Family

According to Wikipedia: "Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar (c.1500 – 1553) was the guardian of Mary I of Scotland during her childhood. Alexander Livingston succeeded his father to the title of Lord Livingston in about 1518. His first wife was Janet Stewart. After her death, he married Lady Agnes Douglas, daughter of John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton, and by her he had eight children. Lord Livingston became Queen Mary's guardian in about 1543. One of his daughters was Mary Livingston, who became a lady-in-waiting to the queen. When Queen Mary went to France in 1548 following her betrothal to the Dauphin, Livingston accompanied her, and remained there until he died. His lineal descendant was the Rev. John Livingston father of Robert Livingston the Elder of New York."


The Graham Family, Starting with Generation 15, 0.110111011011110  Lilias Graham

0.110111011011110 Lilias Graham  (b. 1570 Montrose, Lanarkshire, Scotland ( d. 1605 Perth, Perthshire, Scotland md. 1606) Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,  first Earl of Wigton in Scotland  Fleming Family 

The Cary Estes Geneaology p. 86 quotes "Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:

"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose.  Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to promote the principles of the Reformation.  Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.  While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"

"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldest son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.

"He [the son, the Second Earl of Wigton] married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband.  They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)

Lilias = daughter of

Generation 16

0.1101110110111101 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548- Nov. 9, 1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604  md. 0.1101110110111100 Joan Drummond 

According to Wikipedia: "John Graham, 3rd Earl of Montrose (1548 – 9 November 1608) was a Scottish peer and Chancellor of the University of St Andrews from 1599 to 1604. He was a natural great-grandson of King James IV of Scotland, his maternal grandmother, Janet Fleming, being a royal bastard."

According to Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 85: Joan "dau. of David Drummond, Second and Lord, and Lilias Ruthven; son of Walter Drummond; son of William Drummond and Isabel Campbell, dau. of Colin Campbell, Earl of Argyle; son of Sir John Drummond and Eliza Lindsey."

John = son of

Generation 19

0.11011101101111011 Robert Graham, Master of Montrose (d. before 1584)  md. 0.11011101101111010  Margaret Fleming (d. after Aug. 15, 1584) Fleming Family   Overlapping lines. We are descended from her brother John as well.
[Cary-Estes p. 85 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming, d. 1547

According to thePeerage.com: "Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was the son of William Graham, 2nd Earl of Montrose and Lady Janet Keith. He died on 10 September 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland. Robert Graham, Master of Montrose was styled as Master of Montrose."

Robert = son of

Generation 20

0.110111011011110111 William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) md. Dec. 1515 0.110111011011110110 Lady Janet Keith  Keith Family

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Jane Keith md. William Graham, Second Earl of Montrose]

According to thepeerage.com: "William Graham, 2nd Earl of Montrose was the son of William Graham, 1st Earl of Montrose and Annabella Drummond. He married Lady Janet Keith, daughter of William Keith, 2nd Earl Marischal and Lady Elizabeth Gordon, in December 1515.  William Graham, 2nd Earl of Montrose gained the title of 2nd Earl of Montrose."

William = son of

Generation 21

0.1101110110111101111 William Graham, first Earl of Montrose md. Nov. 25, 1479 0.1101110110111101119 Annabella Drummond, daughter of John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond md. Lady Elizabeth Lindsay [Overlapping line. we're also descended from her brother William Drummond, Master of Drummond]

According to thePeerage.com: "William Graham, 1st Earl of Montrose was the son of William Graham, 2nd Lord Graham and Lady Anne Douglas. He married Annabella Drummond, daughter of John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond and Lady Elizabeth Lindsay, on 25 November 1479. William Graham, 1st Earl of Montrose gained the title of 1st Earl of Montrose."

William = son of

Generation 22

0.11011101101111011111  William Graham, 2nd Lord Graham (d. 1472) md. before 1460 0.11011101101111011110  Elene Douglas, daugther of William Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus md. Margaret Hay 

According to thePeerage.com: "William Graham, 2nd Lord Graham was the son of Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham and Christian Erskine. He married Elene Douglas, daughter of William Douglas, 2nd Earl of Angus and Margaret Hay, before 1460.1 He died in 1472."

William = son of

Generation 23

0.110111011011110111111 Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham and Archibishop of St. Andrews (d. 1466 or 1478) md.0.110111011011110111110 Christian Erskine, daughter of Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, 1st Lord Erskine  and Christian Stewart 

According to thePeerage.com: "Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham was the son of Alexander Graham.1 He died in 1478.1 He was also reported to have died in 1466. Patrick Graham, 1st Lord Graham gained the title of 1st Lord Graham. He held the office of Archbishop of St. Andrews."

Patrick = son of

Generation 24

0.1101110110111101111111 Alexander Graham (d. after Aug. 10, 1423), lived at Kincardine, Aberdeensnire, Scotland md 0.1101110110111101111110. Lady Mary Stewart, daughter of King Robert III of Scotland md. Annabella Drummond (1350-1401 Overlapping line. We are also descended from her brother King James I of Scotland who married Joan Beaufort. First Stewart Family

Alexander = son of

24 Sir William Graham (d. 1424) md. Gille Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart, son of Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland [Overlaps his line]  md. Isabella Graham, daughter of Sir John Graham (b. before 1285)

According to thePeerage.com: "Sir William Graham married, firstly, Gille Stewart, daughter of Sir John Stewart. He married, secondly, Lady Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert III Stewart, King of Scotland and Annabel Drummond, on 13 November 1413.2 He died in 1424.  Sir William Graham lived at Kincardine, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. He was invested as a Knight."


Second Stewart Family, Starting from Generation 17, 0.11011101101111110 Lady Janet Stewart

0.11011101101111110 Lady Janet Stewart (1502-1562 md. 0.1101110110
1111111
Malcolm Fleming (c. 1494 - Sept. 10, 1547) 3rd Lord Fleming Fleming Family

According to Wikipedia: "Janet Stewart, Lady Fleming (17 July 1502 – 20 February 1562), called la Belle Écossaise (French for "the Beautiful Scotswoman"), was an illegitimate daughter of King James IV of Scotland who served as governess to her half-niece Mary, Queen of Scots. Janet was briefly a mistress of King Henry II of France, by whom she had a legitimated son: Henri d'Angoulême. Her daughter, Mary Fleming, was one of the young queen's "Four Marys".

According to Wikipedia: "Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming (c.1494 - 10 September 1547) son and heir of John Fleming, 2nd Lord Fleming, Lord Chamberlain of Scotland 1524. He was taken prisoner by the English at the Battle of Solway Moss, Nov 1542, but released at a ransom of 1000 marks on 1 July 1548. He was granted a dispensation on 26 February 1524/5, and subsequently married Lady Janet Stewart, illegitimate daughter of King James IV of Scotland He died 10 September 1547, in his 53rd year, being slain at the Battle of Pinkie."

Janet = daughter of

Generation 18

0.110111011011111101 King James IV of Scotland (1473-1513) reigned 1488-1513 mated with 0.110111011011111100 Lady Isobel Stewart [more to come]

According to Wikipedia: "James IV (17 March 1473 – 9 September 1513) was King of Scots from 11 June 1488 to his death. He is generally regarded as the most successful of the Stewart monarchs of Scotland, but his reign ended with the disastrous defeat at the Battle of Flodden Field, where he became the last British monarch to be killed in battle. James IV was the son of James III and Margaret of Denmark, probably born in Stirling Castle."

James = son of

Generation 19

King James III of Scotland  (c. 1451/1452-1488) reigned 1460-1488 md. 1469 Margaret of Denmark (1456-1486), daughter of King Christian I of Denmark, Norway and Sweden. [Her line] 

According to Wikipedia: "James III of Scotland (c. 1451/1452 – 11 June 1488), the son of James II and Mary of Guelders, was Duke of Rothesay from birth, then King of Scots from 1460 to 1488. James was an unpopular and ineffective monarch owing to an unwillingness to administer justice fairly, a policy of pursuing alliance with the Kingdom of England, and a disastrous relationship with nearly all his extended family."

James = son of

21 King James II of Scotland (1430-1460) reigned 1437-1460 md. Mary of Guelders [Her line]

[Overlaps another line. We are also descended from his sister Annabella Stewart]

According to Wikipedia: "James II of Scotland (October 16, 1430, at Holyrood Palace, Edinburgh – August 3, 1460) reigned as king of Scots from 1437 to 1460. James II, the son of James I of Scotland and of Joan Beaufort (daughter of John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset and of Margaret Holland), had an elder twin, Alexander Stewart, Duke of Rothesay, who lived long enough to receive a knighthood, but died in infancy. James II became the father of James III. He gained the nickname "Fiery face" because of a conspicuous vermilion birthmark on his face. James had six sisters, who married into various European royal dynasties. James II was killed when the chamber of a bombard exploded at the siege of Roxburgh Castle in 1460."

James = son of

22  King James I of Scotland (1394-1437) reigned 1424-1437 md. Joan Beaufort (1404-1445)  [Her line]

According to Wikipedia: "James I (December 10, 1394 – February 21, 1437) was nominal King of Scots from April 4, 1406, and reigning King of Scots from May 1424 until February 21, 1437. Born on December 10, 1394, the son of Robert III and Annabella Drummond, he had an eventful childhood. In 1402 his elder brother, David, starved to death in prison at Falkland in Fife."

James = son of

23 King Robert III of Scotland (1340-1406), reigned 1390-1406 md.1367 Annabella Drummond (1350-1401) [Her line]
[overlaps another line]

According to Wikipedia: "Robert III (c. 1340 – April 4, 1406), King of Scots (reigned 1390 - 1406), the eldest son of King Robert II by his mistress, Elizabeth Mure, became legitimised with the formal marriage of his parents about 1349. (They had previously married in 1336, but some had criticised that ceremony as uncanonical.) In 1367, Robert III married Anabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond of Stobhall and Mary Montifex."

Robert = son of

24 King Robert II of Scotland (1316-1390), reigned 1371-1390 unmarried Elizabeth Mure (later legitimized with formal marrage 1349)

According to Wikipedia: "Robert II (March 2, 1316 – April 19, 1390), was King of Scots from 1371 until his death. He was also the High Steward of Scotland and the first king from the House of Stewart (later spelled "Stuart"). Robert was the sole son of Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland (d. 1326) and Marjorie Bruce, daughter of King Robert I of Scotland and his first wife Isabella of Mar. He was delivered by caesarean section, reputedly at Paisley Abbey. His mother, who had been thrown from a horse, survived his birth by some hours at most."

Robert = son of

25 Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland (d. 1326) md. Marjorie Bruce  (1296-1316), daughter of King Robert I of Scotland  [Her line]

Walter = son of

26James Stewart, 5th High Steward of Scotland one of the six Regents of Scotland (1243-1309) md. Cecilia, daughter of Patrick Dunbar  [Her line]

James = son of

27 Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland (1214-1283) md. Jean, daughter of Angus or James Macrory, Lord of Bute. Alexander is said to have accompanied King Louis of France on the Crusade in 1248.

Alexander = son of

28 Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland (d. 1246) md. Bethoc, daughter of Gille Crist, Earl of Angus
First to use the Stewart surname

Walter = son of

29 Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotlandaccompanied Richard the Lionheart on the Third Crusade, patron of the Knights Templar md. Alesta, daughter of Morggan Earl of Mar

Alan = son of

30 Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland held that post c. 1150-1177 (d. 1177) Norman by culture and by blood a Breton md. Eschyna de Londoniis of Molla and Huntlaw

Walter = son of

31 Alan fitz Flaad, Breton knight and lord of Oswestry (d. after 1114)  md. Ada or Adeline, daughter of Emoulf of Hesdin, who was killed on crusade at Antioch

Alan = son of

32 Flaad

Flaad = son of




First  Douglas Family, Starting with Generation 17, 0.1101110110110110 Agnes Douglas

0.1101110110110110 Agnes Douglas md. Alexander Livingston (1500-1551), 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar

Agnes = daughter of

Generation 18

0.11011101101101111 John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (1459-1512) md. 0.11011101101101110 Janet Crichton (1461-1493)

According to Wikipedia: "John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (died 1513) was the son of James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton and Princess Joan Stewart. He was a grandson of James I of Scotland. He became earl in 1493, upon his father's death. He was succeeded by his son James Douglas, 3rd Earl of Morton. His daughter Agnes married Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston."

According to Wikipedia: "John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (1466-1513) married Janet Crichton (died 1515).

John = son of

Generation 19

0.110111011011011111 James Douglas (1426-1493) md. 0.110111011011011110  Joan Stewart (1428-1493) Stewart Family

According to Wikipedia: "James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton (died 1493) was created Earl of Morton in 1458. He was a descendant of Agnes Dunbar, 4th Countess of Moray (known as "Black Agnes of Dunbar"). He married Princess Joan Stewart (1429 - c. 1488), daughter of James I, King of Scots. His wife was buried in Dalkeith Church, Dalkeith. They were the parents of four children; Janet, Elizabeth, James and John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton."

According to Wikipedia: "Joan Stewart[1] (circa 1428-after 16 October 1486) was the daughter of James I of Scotland and Joan Beaufort. Sent to France in 1445 for education at a nunnery, she later married James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton and had issue..."

James = son of

Generation 20

0.1101110110110111111 James Douglas (1407-1458) md. 0.1101110110110111110 Elizabeth Gifford (1409-1456)

James = son of

Generation 21

22 James Douglas (1383-1441) md. Elizabeth Stewart (1387-1411) daughter of King Robert III of Scotland (1337-1406) (His line) md. Annabella Drummond (1350-1401) Her line]

James = son of

Generation 22

23 James Douglas (1350-1420) md. Agnes Dunbar (1350-1378) 4th Countess of Moray (AKA Black Agnes of Dunar)

John = son of

Generation 23

24 John Douglas (1320-1350) md. Agnes Munfode (1320-1377)

John = son of

Generation 24

25 James Douglas (1300-1323) md. Joan of Scotland (1278-1337)


The Stewart Family, Starting with Generation 19, 0.110111011011011110 Joan Stewart (1426-1493)

0.110111011011011110 Joan Stewart (1428-1493)  md. 0.110111011011011111 James Douglas (1426-1493) First Earl of Morton

Joan was a deaf-mute  "Joan Stewart, Countess of Morton (c. 1428-16 Oct 1486) was the daughter of James I Stewart, King of Scotland and Lady Joan Beaufort. She was deaf and mute;Sshe was know by the pejorative nickname "The Dumb Lady" (latin: muta domina)."  according to Wikitree.com

Joan = daughter of

Generation 20

0.1101110110110111101 King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437), reigned 1406-1437 md. 14240.1101110110110111100  Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) Beaufort Family
[Overlapping line. We are also descended through the Graham line from his sister Lady Mary Stewart]

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Joan Beaufort md. James I, King of Scotland]

James = son of

Generation 21

22 King Robert III of Scotland (1340-1406), reigned 1390-1406 md.1367 Annabella Drummond (1350-1401) Drummond Family
[Overlapping line. We are also descended from her brother Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lenox]

Robert = son of

23 King Robert II of Scotland (1316-1390), reigned 1371-1390 unmarried Elizabeth Mure (later legitimized with formal marrage 1349)

Robert = son of

24 Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland (d. 1326) md. Marjorie Bruce  (1296-1316), daughter of King Robert I of Scotland  [Her line]

Walter = son of

25James Stewart, 5th High Steward of Scotland one of the six Regents of Scotland (1243-1309) md. Cecilia, daughter of Patrick Dunbar  [Her line]

James = son of

26 Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland (1214-1283) md. Jean, daughter of Angus or James Macrory, Lord of Bute. Alexander is said to have accompanied King Louis of France on the Crusade in 1248.

Alexander = son of

27 Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland (d. 1246) md. Bethoc, daughter of Gille Crist, Earl of Angus
First to use the Stewart surname

Walter = son of

28 Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland accompanied Richard the Lionheart on the Third Crusade, patron of the Knights Templar md. Alesta, daughter of Morggan Earl of Mar

Alan = son of

29 Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland held that post c. 1150-1177 (d. 1177) Norman by culture and by blood a Breton md. Eschyna de Londoniis of Molla and Huntlaw

Walter = son of

30 Alan fitzFlaad, Breton knight and lord of Oswestry (d. after 1114)  md. Ada or Adeline, daughter of Emoulf of Hesdin, who was killed on crusade at Antioch

Alan = son of

31 Flaad

Flaad = son of

32 Alain, a crusader in 1097, Dpaifer to the Archbiishop of Dol, near Mont Saint-Michel


The Keith Family, Starting from Generation 20, Lady Janet Keith

Lady Janet Keith md. Dec. 1515 William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) Graham Family

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Jane Keith md. William Graham, Second Earl of Montrose]

Janet = daughter of

Generation 21

20 William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal md. Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Eliza Gordon md. William Keith]



The Beaufort Family, Starting from Generation 20, 1101110110110111100  Joan Beaufort

0.1101110110110111100  Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) md/ 1424 0.1101110110110111101 King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437), reigned 1406-1437

Joan = daughter of

Generation 21


0.11011101101101111001 John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset
(1371-1410) md.
0.11011101101101111000 Margaret Holland (1385-1439) (daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England)  Holland Family

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Margaret Holland md. John Beaufort, Marquis of Dorsett, Earl of Somerset, Knight of the Garter]

John = son of

Generation 22

24 John of Gaunt (Plantagenet), First Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) md. Katherine Swynford (1350-1403) (daughter of Payne de Roet a Flemish herald from Hainault) [John was born before they were married]

Richard II was his nephew
King Henry IV was his son

John = son of

Generation 23

25 King Edward III of England  (Nov. 13, 1312 - June 21, 1377) reigned 1327-1377 md.  Philippa of Hainault (1314-1369) Hainault Family

Edward = son of

26 King Edward II of England (April 25, 1284- Sept. 21, 1327?) reigned 1307-1327 md. Isabella of France AKA She-Wolf of France (c. 1295- Aug. 22, 1358), daughteer of King Philip IV of France and Joan I of Navarre [Her line]

Edward = son of

27 Edward I, King of England (Plantagenet) (1239-1307) reigned (1272-1304) md. (first wife) Eleanor of Castile (1241-1290) (daughter of Fernando III, King of Castile and Leon and his second wife,Jeanne, Countess of Ponthieu) [Her line]
[Overlapping line]

Edward = son of

28 Henry III, King of England (Plantagenet) (1207-1272) reigned 1216-1272) md. Eleanor of Provence (c. 1223-1291) (daughter of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence (1198-1245) and Beatrice of Savoy (1206-1266)) [Her line]

Henry = son of

29 John I, "Lackland," King of England (Plantagenet)  [Magna Carta] (1166-1216) reigned 1199-1216) md. Isabella of Angoulême (1187-1246) (daughter of Aymer Taillefer, Count of Angouleme) [Her line]

John = son of

30 Henry II, King of England (Plantagenet) (1133-1189) reigned 1154-1189) md. Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) (daughter of William X, Duke of Aquitaine, and duchess, Aenor de Châtellerault) The Family of Aquitaine
Overlapping lines. We are also descended from her marriage to the King of France

Henry = son of

31 Geoffrey V Count of Anjou and Maine by inheritance from 1129 later (from 1144) also Duke of Normandy by conquest (Plantagenet) AKA "the Handsome" (Aug. 24, 1113 - Sept. 7, 1151) md.  Empress Matilda (1102-1110), briefly (contested) the first female ruler of England in 1141 (widow of Henry V Holy Roman Emperor) [Her line]

Geoffrey = son of

32 Fulk V of Anjou AKA Fulk the Younger, (1089/1092 - Nov. 13, 1143) Count of Anjou 1109-1129 and King of Jerusalem 1131-1143  went on Crusade in 1120 and became a close friend of the Knights Templar md. Eremburga of La Fleche, daughter of Elias I of Maine md. Matilda, daugther of Gervais, Lord of Chateau-du-Loir [Her line]

Fulk = son of

33 Fulk IV AKA le Réchin (1043-1109) Count of Anjou 1068-1109 md. Bertrade de Monfort, who later destered her husband and bigamously married King Philip I, she was the daughter of Simon of Monfort [Her line]

Fulk = son of

34 Geoffrey Count of Gatinais (AKA Aubri) md. Ermengarde of Anjou, daughter of Fulk the Black, Count of Anjou, [Her line]



The Second Douglas Family, Starting from Generation 20,  0.11011101101111111110 Janet Douglas (1420-1437)
 
0.11011101101111111110 Janet Douglas (1420-1437) md. 1436 in Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, 0.11011101101111111111 Robert Fleming  1st Lord Fleming (1416 - 1491)
[ancestry.com]

Janet = daugther of

Generation 21

0.110111011011111111101 Sir James Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas (1394-1494) md. 0.110111011011111111100 Beatrice Sinclair (1398-1462)
[ancestry.com]

James = son of

Generation 22

0.1101110110111111111011 Sir George Douglas (1376-1402) md. 0.1101110110111111111010 Steart Douglas Kennedy (1380-1465)
[ancestry.com]

George = son of

Generation 23

0.11011101101111111110111 William de Douglas (1313-1384) md. 0.11011101101111111110110 Margaret Sewart (1325-1418)
[ancestry.com]

William = son of

Generation 24

0.110111011011111111101111 Archibald Douglas (b. 1297 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. July 19, 1333 Haliden Hill, Nurthumberland, England) md. 0.110111011011111111101110 Beatrice De Lindsay (1291-1352)
[ancestry.com]

According to Wikipedia: "Sir Archibald Douglas (The Tyneman- Old Scots "Loser") (before 1298 – 19 July 1333) was a Scottish noble, Guardian of Scotland and military leader. The younger son of Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas, the Governor of the castle at Berwick-upon-Tweed, and his wife Eleanor de Lovaine. Douglas was also half-brother of "the Good" Sir James Douglas, King Robert the Bruce's deputy.

"Douglas is first heard of in 1320 when he received a charter of land at Morebattle in Roxburghshire and Kirkandrews in Dumfriesshire from King Robert. In 1324 he was recorded as being granted the lands of Rattray and Crimond in Buchan, and the lands of Conveth, Kincardineshire, already being possession of Cavers in Roxburghshire, Drumlanrig and Terregles in Dumfriesshire, and the lands of West Calder in Midlothian. By the time of his death he was also in possession of Liddesdale.

"History then keeps quiet about Douglas except whilst serving under his older brother James in the 1327 campaign in Weardale, where his foragers "auoint curry apoi tot levesche de Doresme"- overran nearly all the Bishopric of Durham. (Scalacronica)

"Following the death of King Robert I and his brother's crusade with the dead king's heart, Douglas once again becomes of note. He was made guardian of the kingdom since he was "the principal adviser in...the confounding of the king" as much as he was heir to his brothers influence after Murray's capture. Archibald's success in local raids though, did not prepare him for full scale conflict.

"During the Second War of Scottish Independence, Edward Baliol, son of King John of Scotland, had invaded Scotland with the backing of Edward III of England, inflicting a defeat on the Scots at the Battle of Dupplin Moor. Douglas served under the dubious leadership of Patrick V, Earl of Dunbar leader of the second army that aimed to crush the smaller Balliol force. Following the rout of the Earl of Mar's force Dunbar did not engage the disinherited but retreated allowing Edward Balliol to be crowned at Scone. Following this battle, and as a sweetener to the English, Edward Baliol agreed to cede the county, town and castle of Berwick to England in perpetuity. However Douglas led a Bruce loyalist defeat on Balliol at the Battle of Annan, forcing him to flee back to England.

"Edward III himself came north to command his army, and laid siege to Berwick. However, a temporary truce was declared with the stipulation that if not relieved within a set time, Sir Alexander Seton, the governor, would deliver the castle to the English. Douglas raised an army to relieve the beleaguered defenders of Berwick. As a feint to draw the English away he invaded Northumberland, but was forced to return to Berwick when the English refused to be lured. On 19 July, Edward's army took positions at the summit of Halidon Hill, a summit some mile and a half north of the town with commanding views of the surrounding country. Douglas' numerically superior force was compelled to attack up the slope and were slaughtered by the English archers, a prelude, perhaps, to the battles of Crécy and Agincourt. The English won the field with little loss of life, however by the close of the fight, countless Scots common soldiery, five Scots Earls and the Guardian Douglas lay dead. The following day Berwick capitulated.

"Archibald was succeeded by his son, William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas."

see the historical novel Castle Dangerous by Sir Walter Scott

Archibald = son of

Generation 25

0.1101110110111111111011111  William "le Hardi" Douglas (1255-1298) md. 0.1101110110111111111011110 Eleanor de Lovaine

According to Wikipedia: "
Following the Battle of Dunbar, a large section of the Scots nobility were languishing in prison in England. The countryside was fomenting and there was talk of a new champion for the Scots people, William Wallace of Elderslie had started his campaign. Douglas was summoned to attend King Edward in London on 7 July 1297, with fifty other barons to accompany him on an expedition to Flanders to aid Guy of Dampierre, Count of Flanders against Philip le Bel King of France. Douglas refused and joined company with Wallace. Most Scots magnates thought that Wallace was beneath their dignity, but Douglas had no such compunction. He was the first nobleman to join with Sir William Wallace in 1297 in rebellion; combining forces at Sanquhar, Durisdeer and later Scone Abbey where the two liberated the English treasury. With that booty Wallace financed further rebellion. Wallace joined his forces with that of Sir Andrew Moray and together they led the patriot army in the Battle at Stirling Bridge fought on 11 September 1297. They were joined by other patriots such as Robert Wishart Bishop of Glasgow, and the Morays of Bothwell, with a contingent of Douglases at the national muster at Irvine, North Ayrshire.

"
When Edward heard of Douglas' supposed treason he commanded the future King of Scots Robert Bruce, Earl of Carrick, then governor of Carlisle for the English to take retribution. Bruce swept into Douglasdale at the king's order. However, young Bruce, who was twenty-two years old at the time, stated, "I must join my own people and the nation in which I was born." He then was joined by the men of Douglas and Lady Douglas, proceeding to join the rebels at Irvine.

"
The third time Douglas was held a prisoner of Edward Plantagenet, was after 9 July 1297 when he was accused by Sir Henry de Percy of breaking his covenant of peace with Edward that was agreed to in the document known as the Capitulation at Irving Water, where Douglas was in the company of Robert Brus, Alexander de Lindsay and John and James (the latter three his brothers in law). By the time Sir Andrew de Moray and William Wallace won their great victory at Stirling, Sir William the Hardy was again Edward's prisoner at Berwick Castle; staying in what was now called 'Douglas Tower.

"Following Wallace's success at Stirling Bridge the English fled Berwick on Tweed with Douglas and another Scottish prisoner Thomas de Morham; both were later committed to the Tower of London on 12 October 1297 with Douglas meeting his end there in 1298 due to mistreatment. "

See the movie Braveheart with Mel Gibson.

William = son of

Generation 26

0.11011101101111111110111111 William Longleg, Lord of Douglas (1220- c. 1274 md. (2) 0.11011101101111111110111110 Constance Battail of Fawdon

According to Wikipedia: "The years of the minority of King Alexander III (1249–1262) featured an embittered struggle for the control of affairs between two rival parties, the one led by the nationalistic Walter Comyn, Earl of Menteith, the other by pro-English Alan Durward, Justiciar of Scotia. The former dominated the early years of Alexander's reign. In 1255 an interview between the English and Scottish kings at Kelso led to Menteith and his party losing to Durward's party. Later both parties called a Meeting of the great Magnates of the Realm to establish a regency until Alexander came of age. William Lord of Douglas was one of the magnates called to witness. Douglas was a partisan of Durward's party. This can be explained by the fact that although most of his territories lay in Douglasdale, through his wife, Constance, he had obtained the rich Manor of Fawdon in Northumberland and it would do well to keep English Royal favour"

William = son of

Generation 27

0.110111011011111111101111111 Archibald I, Lord of Douglas (before 1198 - c. 1238) md. 0.110111011011111111101111110 Margaret, daughter of Sir John Crawford of Crawfordjohn

According to Wikipedia: "The earliest attestation of his existence is in a charter of confirmation dated prior to 1198. This charter of Jocelin, Bishop of Glasgow, granted the rights of a toft in Glasgow to Melrose Abbey. Archibald's name appears between that of Alan, High Steward of Scotland and Robert de Montgomery. Also before 1198, Archibald appears in another document, again before 1198, in which he resigns the lands of Hailes held by him of the Abbey of Dunfermline, to Robert of Restalrig. Between 1214 and 1226, Archibald acquired the use of the lands of Hermiston and Livingston, with Maol Choluim I, Earl of Fife as his feudal superior.[1] Archibald of Douglas must have been knighted before 1226 as he appears in another charter of Melrose Abbey as 'Dominus de Douglas' witnessing William Purves of Mospennoc granting the Monks of Melrose rights to pass through his lands. Another witness is Andrew, Archibald's knight which highlights his influential position.[2] Archibald de Douglas appears as a signatory to several royal charters following 1226, and he appears to have spent a considerable time in Moray as episcopal charters of his brother Bricius de Douglas show. He was in the retinue of the King Alexander II, at Selkirk, in 1238 when the title Earl of Lennox was regranted to Maol Domhnaich of Lennox. Douglas disappears from historical record after 1239 and it is presumed that he died about this time.

Archibald = son of

Generation 28

0.110111011011111111101111111l William of Douglas (d. 1214) lived in Clydesdale, under the King of the Scots md. ? 0.110111011011111111101111110 Margaret, sister of Freskin of Kerdal, a Flemish laird from Moray


The Holland Family, Starting from Generation 21, with 0.11011101101101111000 Margaret Holland

0.11011101101101111000 Margaret Holland (1385-1439)  md.  0.11011101101101111001 John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset (1371-1410) Beaufort Family

According to Wikipedia: "Margaret Beaufort (née Holland), Countess of Somerset (1385–30 Dec 1439) was the daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent" (granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England). Margaret married John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset, son of John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster and his mistress Katherine Swynford. They had six children:"

According to Wikipedia: "John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373 – March 16, 1410) was the first of the four illegitimate children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, and his mistress Katherine Swynford, later his wife. Beaufort was born in about 1371 and his surname probably reflects his father's lordship of Beaufort in Champagne, France. The family emblem was the portcullis which is shown on the reverse of a modern British 1p coin. John of Gaunt had his nephew Richard II of England declare the Beaufort children legitimate in 1390, Gaunt married their mother in January 1396. Despite being the grandchildren of Edward III of England, and next in the line of succession after the Lancasters, their father's legitimate children, by agreement they were barred from the succession to the throne."

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Margaret Holland md. John Beaufort, Marquis of Dorsett, Earl of Somerset, Knight of the Garter]

Margaret = daughter of

Generation 22

Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent (1350 - April 25, 1397), councillor of his half-brother King Richard II md. Alice FitzAlan , daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster

According to Wikipedia: "Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent (1350–April 25, 1397) was an English nobleman and a councillor of his half-brother Richard II. Thomas was the son of Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent and Joan of Kent. His mother was a daughter of Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent and Margaret Wake. Edmund was in turn a son of Edward I of England and his second Queen consort Marguerite of France, and thus a younger half-brother of Edward II of England. When his father died in 1360 Thomas became Baron Holand. His mother was still Countess of Kent in her own right. At sixteen, in 1366, Holland was appointed captain of the English forces in Aquitaine. He fought in various campaigns over the following years, and was made a Knight of the Garter in 1375.
Richard II became king in 1377, and soon Holland acquired great influence over his younger half-brother, which he used for his own enrichment. In 1381 he was created Earl of Kent. ... Holland married Alice FitzAlan, daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel, and Eleanor of Lancaster. They had eight children:"

[Cary-Estes p. 85 Thomas Holand md. Alice FitzAlan, daughter of Richard, Ninth Earl of Arundel]

Thomas = son of

Generation 23

Thomas Holland, 1st Earl Earl of Kent (c. 1314 - Dec. 26, 1360) military commander during the Hundred Years' War md.  Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent" (1328-1385), granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England Plantagenet Family

According to Wikipedia: "Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent (c. 1314 – 26 December 1360) was an English nobleman and military commander during the Hundred Years' War.
He was from a gentry family in Holland, Lancashire. He was a son of Robert Holland and Maud De La Zouche. In his early military career, he fought in Flanders. He was engaged, in 1340, in the English expedition into Flanders and sent, two years later, with Sir John D'Artevelle to Bayonne, to defend the Gascon frontier against the French. In 1343, he was again on service in France; and, in the following year, had the honour of being chosen one of the founders of the Most Noble Order of the Garter. In 1346, he attended King Edward III into Normandy in the immediate retinue of the Earl of Warwick; and, at the taking of Caen, the Count of Eu and Guînes, Constable of France, and the Count De Tancarville surrendered themselves to him as prisoners. At the Battle of Crécy, he was one of the principal commanders in the van under the Prince of Wales and he, afterwards, served at the Siege of Calais in 1346-7. Around the same time as, or before, his first expedition, he secretly married the 12-year-old Joan of Kent, daughter of Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent and Margaret Wake, granddaughter of Edward I and Marguerite of France. However, during his absence on foreign service, Joan, under pressure from her family, contracted another marriage with William Montacute, 2nd Earl of Salisbury (of whose household Holland had been seneschal). This second marriage was annulled in 1349, when Joan's previous marriage with Holland was proved to the satisfaction of the papal commissioners. Joan was ordered by the Pope to return to her husband and live with him as his lawful wife; this she did, thus producing 4 children by him."

According to Wikipedia: "Joan, Countess of Kent (September 29, 1328 – August 7, 1385), known to history as The Fair Maid of Kent, was the first Princess of Wales. The French chronicler Froissart called her "the most beautiful woman in all the realm of England, and the most loving." The "fair maid of Kent" appellation does not appear to be contemporary.... Joan was daughter of Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent, and Margaret Wake, 3rd Baroness Wake. Her paternal grandparents were Edward I of England and his second Queen consort Marguerite of France[2]. Her maternal grandparents were John Wake, 1st Baron Wake of Liddell and Joan de Fiennes. Her father, Edmund, was a younger half-brother of Edward II of England. Edmund's support of the King placed him in conflict with the Queen, Isabella of France, and her lover Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March. Edmund was executed after Edward II's deposition, and Joan, her mother and her siblings were placed under house-arrest in Arundel Castle when Joan was only two years old"

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Joan of Kent md. Thomas Holand]

Thomas = son of

26 Robert de Holland 1st Baron Holand (c. 1283 - 1328, beheaded for treason) = ancestor of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Louis XVI, and Winston Churchill, knighted 1305  md. about 1308 Maud De La Zouche, daughter of Lord Alan la Zouche, 1st Baron la Zouche of Ashby md. Eleanor de Segrave [Her line]

Robert = son of

27 Sir Robert de Holland md.  Eizabeth de Salmesbury 

The Drummond Family, Starting from Generation 21, with Annabella Drummond (1350-1401)

23 Annabella Drummond (1350-1401) md. 1367  King Robert III of Scotland AKA John Stewart (1340-1406) [His line]
[Overlapping line.  We're also descended from her brother Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lenox]

Annabella = daughter of

24 Sir John Drummond 11th of Lennox (1318-1373) and Mary Montifex  AKA Mary Montifichet (b. 1325), daughter of William de Montifex

John = son of

25 Sir Malcolm Drummond 10th Thane of Lennox (b. after 1295 d. 1346) Margaret de Graham  [Her line]

Malcolm = son of

26 Sir Malcolm Drummond 9th Thane of Lennox (b. after 1270 d. 1325) md. Margaret  Graham (b. before 1279) [Her line]

Malcolm = son of

27 Sir John Drummond, 8th Thane of Lennox (b. after 1240 d. 1301) md. Elena Stewart [Her line]

John = son of

28 Sir Malcolm Drummond, 7th Thane of Lennox (b. after 1209 d. 1278)

Malcolm = son of

29 Malcolm Beg Drummond, 6th Thane of Lennox (b. afater 1169 d. 1259) md. Ada of Lennox [Her line]

Malcolm = son of

30 Sir Malcolm Drummond, 5th Thane of Lennox (b. before 1153 d. 1200)


The Plantagenet Family, Starting from Generation 23

Thomas Holland, 1st Earl Earl of Kent (c. 1314 - Dec. 26, 1360) military commander during the Hundred Years' War md.  Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", (1328-1385) granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Joan of Kent md. Thomas Holand]

Joan = daughter of

Generation 24

Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent (Plantagenet)  (Aug. 5, 1301 - March 19, 1330 executed for treason) md. Margaret Wake, (c. 1297 - Sept. 29, 1349) 3rd Baroness Wake, descendant of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Edward of Woodstock md. Margaret Wake (d. 1330)]

Edmund = son of

27 King Edward I of England "Longshanks" (June 14, 1229 - July 7, 1307) reigned 1272-1307) md. Marguerite of France (1282 - Feb. 14, 1317), daughter of King Philip III of France md. Maria of Brabant Capet Family

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Margaret md. Edward I King of England]

Edward = son of

28 Henry III, King of England (Plantagenet) (1207-1272) reigned 1216-1272) md. Eleanor of Provence (c. 1223-1291) (daughter of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence (1198-1245) and Beatrice of Savoy (1206-1266)) [Her line]

Henry = son of

29 John I, "Lackland," King of England (Plantagenet)  [Magna Carta] (1166-1216) reigned 1199-1216) md. Isabella of Angoulême (1187-1246) (daughter of Aymer Taillefer, Count of Angouleme) [Her line]

John = son of

30 Henry II, King of England (Plantagenet) (1133-1189) reigned 1154-1189) md. Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) (daughter of William X, Duke of Aquitaine, and duchess, Aenor de Châtellerault) [Her line]

Henry = son of

31 Geoffrey V Count of Anjou and Maine by inheritance, and Duke of Normandy by conquest 1144 the Handsome (Plantagenet) (Aug. 24, 1113 - Sept. 7 1151) md.  Empress Matilda (1102-1110), briefly (contested) the first female ruler of England in 1141 (widow of Henry V Holy Roman Emperor) [Her line]

Geoffrey = son of

32 Fulk V of Anjou AKA Fulk the Younger, (1089/1092 - Nov. 13, 1143) Count of Anjou 1109-1129 and King of Jerusalem 1131-1143  went on Crusade in 1120 and became a close friend of the Knights Templar md. Eremburga of La Fleche, daughter of Elias I of Maine md. Matilda, daugther of Gervais, Lord of Chateau-du-Loir [Her line]

Fulk = son of

33 Fulk IV AKA le Réchin (1043-1109) Count of Anjou 1068-1109 md. Bertrade de Monfort, who later destered her husband and bigamously married King Philip I, she was the daughter of Simon of Monfort [Her line]

Fulk = son of

34 Geoffrey Count of Gatinais (AKA Aubri) md. Ermengarde of Anjou, daughter of Fulk the Black, Count of Anjou, [Her line]


The Hainault Family, Starting from Generation 23, with Philippa of Hainaut

Philippa of Hainaut (1314-1369) md. King Edward III of England  (Nov. 13, 1312 - June 21, 1377) reigned 1327-1377 Plantagenet Family

Philippa = daughter of

Generation 24

26 William I Count of Hainault  (1286-1337) md. 1305  Jeanne of Valois (1292-1342) [Her line -- see adela.html]

William = son of

Generation 25

27 John II of Avesnes, Count of Holland (1247 - Aug. 22, 1304) md. Philippa of Luxembourg  (1252-1311) [Her line]

John = son of

Generation 26

28 John I of Avesnes, Count of Hainaut (May 1, 1218 - Dec. 24, 1257) md. Adelaide of Holland AKA Aleide (Aleidis) van Holland (c. 1230 - april 9, 1284) [Her line]

John = son of

Generation 27

Bouchard IV of Avesne   md. Margaret II Countess of Flanders and Countess of Hainault (1202-1280) Family of Baldwin of Constantinople   His line]


The Capet Family, Starting from Generation 24, from Marguerite of France

Marguerite of France (Capet) (1282 - Feb. 14, 1317) md. King Edward I of England "Longshanks" (June 14, 1229 - July 7, 1307) reigned 1272-1307) Plantagenet Family

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Margaret md. Edward I King of England]

Marguerite = daughter of

Generation 25

King Philip III "the Bold" of France (Capet) (1245-1285), reigned 1270-1285 md. Aug. 21, 1274 . Maria of Brabant (May 13, 1254, Leuven - Jan. 10, 1321, Murel)  Brabant Family
He also married Isabella of Aragon (1247-1271)  and by that marriage had Charles of Valois from whom we are also descended. [more valois[  [Overlaps another line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Marie of Brabant md. Philip III King of France]

[more capet]


The Brabant Family, Starting from Generation 25, from Maria of Brabant


Maria of Brabant (May 13, 1254, Leuven - Jan. 10, 1321, Murel)  md. Aug. 21, 1274 King Philip III "the Bold" of France  (Capet) (1245-1285), reigned 1270-1285

Maria = daughter of

Generation 26

Henry III, Duke of Brabant (c. 1230- Feb. 28, 1261, Leuven) md. Adelaide of Burgundy, daughter of Hugh IV, Duke of Bugundy [more]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Henry III of Brabant]

Henry = son of

Generation 27

Henry II, Duke of Brabant (1207 - Feb. 1, 1248, in Leuven) md. Marie of Hohenstaufen (April 3, 1201 in Arezzo, Tascany, Italy -1235) Hohenstaufen Family

[more brabant] [His line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Marie md. Henry II of Brabant]


The Hohenstaufen Family, Starting from Generation 27, from Marie of Hohenstaufen

Marie of Hohenstaufen
(April 3, 1201 in Arezzo, Tascany, Italy -1235) md. Henry II, Duke of Brabant (1207 - Feb. 1, 1248, in Leuven)

Marie = daughter of

Generation 28

Philip King of Germany and Duke of Swabia (1177 - June 21, 1208)  md. Irene Angelina [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Philip, Emperor of Germany]

Philip = son of

Generation 29

32 Frederick I Barbarossa (1122- June 10, 1190, King of Germany 1152 - 1190, King of Pavia 1154 - 1190, and Holy Roman Emperor 1155 - 1190 md. Beatrice I, Countess of Burgundy (1143 - Nov. 15, 1184) [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Frederick Barbarossa, King of Germany and Italy, d. 1190]

Frederick = son of

Generation 30

Judith of Welf or Guelph (d. 1130 or 1131) md. Frederick II, Duke of Swabia "the One-Eyed" (of the Hohenstaufen dynasty) (1090 - April 6, 1147)  [His line] [more hohenstaufen]  

Welf or Guelf Family

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Judith d. 1147 md. Frederick (or Frideric) the Second of Suabia (or Swabia)]


The Family of Baldwin of Constantinople, Starting from Generation 27, with Margaret II Countess of Flanders and Countess of Hainault

Margaret II Countess of Flanders and Countess of Hainault (1202-1280) md. Bouchard IV of Avesne

Margaret = daughter of

Generation 28

Emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople
(1172-1205) also known as Baldwin VI Count of Hainault and Baldwin IX Count of Flanders. In the Fourth Crusade the Crusaders conquered Constantinople and made Baldwin emperor. [his line]  md. Marie of Champagne (1174-1204)   Champagne Family


The Champagne Family, Starting from Generation 28, with Marie of Champagne

Marie of Champagne (1174-1204) md. Emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople (1172-1205) also known as Baldwin VI Count of Hainault and Baldwin IX Count of Flanders. In the Fourth Crusade the Crusaders conquered Constantinople and made Baldwin emperor. [his line]

Marie = daughter of

Generation 29

Henry I, Count of Champagne (1127-1181) md. Marie of France (1145-1198) poet (patron and perhaps lover of Chretien de Troyes author of Arthurian romances)

Marie = daughter of

Generation 30

King Louis VII of France (1120-1180) and Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204)  Aquitaine Family
(overlapping lines, also descended from her marriage with King Henry II of England, by way of their son King John


The Family of Aquitaine, Starting from Generation 30, with Eleanor of Aquitaine

Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) md.
King Louis VII of France (1120-1180)

According to Wikipedia: "Eleanor of Aquitaine (or Aliénor), Duchess of Aquitaine and Gascony and Countess of Poitou (1122[1]–1 April 1204) was one of the wealthiest and most powerful women in Europe during the High Middle Ages. Eleanor was Queen consort of both Louis VII of France and Henry II of England in turn, and the mother of two kings of England, Richard I and John. She is well known for her participation in the Second Crusade.... Eleanor of Aquitaine took up the crusade during a sermon preached by Bernard of Clairvaux. She was followed by some of her royal ladies-in-waiting as well as 300 non-noble vassals. She insisted on taking part in the Crusades as the feudal leader of the soldiers from her duchy. The story that she and her ladies dressed as Amazons is disputed by serious historians; however, her testimonial launch of the Second Crusade from Vézelay, the rumored location of Mary Magdalene´s burial, dramatically emphasized the role of women in the campaign. The Crusade itself achieved little. Louis was a weak and ineffectual military leader with no concept of maintaining troop discipline or morale, or of making informed and logical tactical decisions. In eastern Europe, the French army was at times hindered by Manuel I Comnenus, the Byzantine Emperor, who feared that it would jeopardize the tenuous safety of his empire; however, during their 3-week stay at Constantinople, Louis was fêted and Eleanor was much admired. She is compared with Penthesilea, mythical queen of the Amazons, by the Greek historian Nicetas Choniates; he adds that she gained the epithet chrysopous (golden-foot) from the cloth of gold that decorated and fringed her robe. Louis and Eleanor stayed in the Philopation palace, just outside the city walls. From the moment the Crusaders entered Asia Minor, the Crusade went badly. The King and Queen were optimistic — the Byzantine Emperor had told them that the German Emperor Conrad had won a great victory against a Turkish army (where in fact the German army had been massacred), and the company was still eating well. However, whilst camping near Nicea, the remnants of the German army, including a dazed and sick Emperor Conrad, began to straggle into the French camp, bringing news of their disaster. The French, with what remained of the Germans, then began to march in increasingly disorganized fashion, towards Antioch. Their spirits were buoyed on Christmas Eve — when they chose to camp in the lush Dercervian valley near Ephesus, they were ambushed by a Turkish detachment; the French proceeded to slaughter this detachment and appropriate their camp. Louis then decided to directly cross the Phrygian mountains, in the hope of speeding his approach to take refuge with Eleanor's uncle Raymond in Antioch. As they ascended the mountains, however, the army and the King and Queen were left horrified by the unburied corpses of the previously slaughtered German army. On the day set for the crossing of Mount Cadmos, Louis chose to take charge of the rear of the column, where the unarmed pilgrims and the baggage trains marched. The vanguard, with which Queen Eleanor marched, was commanded by her Aquitainian vassal, Geoffrey de Rancon; this, being unencumbered by baggage, managed to reach the summit of Cadmos, where de Rancon had been ordered to make camp for the night. De Rancon however chose to march further, deciding in concert with the Count of Maurienne (Louis´ uncle) that a nearby plateau would make a better camp: such disobedience was reportedly common in the army, due to the lack of command from the King. Accordingly, by midafternoon, the rear of the column — believing the day's march to be nearly at an end — was dawdling; this resulted in the army becoming divided, with some having already crossed the summit and others still approaching it. It was at this point that the Turks, who had been following and feinting for many days, seized their opportunity and attacked those who had not yet crossed the summit. The Turks, having seized the summit of the mountain, and the French (both soldiers and pilgrims) having been taken by surprise, there was little hope of escape: those who tried were caught and killed, and many men, horses and baggage were cast into the canyon below the ridge. William of Tyre placed the blame for this disaster firmly on the baggage — which was considered to have belonged largely to the women. The King, ironically, was saved by his lack of authority — having scorned a King's apparel in favour of a simple solder's tunic, he escaped notice (unlike his bodyguards, whose skulls were brutally smashed and limbs severed). He reportedly "nimbly and bravely scaled a rock by making use of some tree roots which God had provided for his safety," and managed to survive the attack. Others were not so fortunate: "No aid came from Heaven, except that night fell." The official scapegoat for the disaster was Geoffrey de Rancon, who had made the decision to continue, and it was suggested that he be hanged (a suggestion which the King ignored). Since he was Eleanor's vassal, many believed that it was she who had been ultimately responsible for the change in plan, and thus the massacre. This did nothing for her popularity in Christendom — as did the blame affixed to her baggage, and the fact that her Aquitainian soldiers had marched at the front, and thus were not involved in the fight. Eleanor's reputation was further sullied by her supposed affair with her uncle Raymond of Poitiers, Prince of Antioch. While in the eastern Mediterranean, Eleanor learned about maritime conventions developing there, which were the beginnings of what would become admiralty law. She introduced those conventions in her own lands, on the island of Oleron in 1160 and later in England as well. She was also instrumental in developing trade agreements with Constantinople and ports of trade in the Holy Lands....Upon Henry's death on July 6, 1189, just days after suffering an injury from a jousting match, Richard was his undisputed heir. One of his first acts as king was to send William the Marshal to England with orders to release Eleanor from prison, but her custodians had already released her. [9] Eleanor rode to Westminster and received the oaths of fealty from many lords and prelates on behalf of the King. She ruled England in Richard's name, signing herself as 'Eleanor, by the grace of God, Queen of England'. On August 13, 1189, Richard sailed from Barfleur to Portsmouth, and was received with enthusiasm. She ruled England as regent while Richard went off on the Third Crusade. She personally negotiated his ransom by going to Germany."

Eleanor = daughter of

Generation 31

William X, Duke of Aquitaine (1099 - April 9, 1137) md. Aenor de Châtellerault (c. 1103 - March 1130 in Talmont),   daughter of Viscount  Aimery I of Chattellerault md. Dangereuse de L'Isle Bouchard (d. 1151)

According to Wikipedia: "William X of Aquitaine (1099 – April 9, 1137), nicknamed the Saint was duke of Aquitaine, duke of Gascony and count of Poitiers as William VIII of Poitiers between 1126 and 1137. He was the son of William, the troubadour by his second wife, Philippa of Toulouse. William was born in Toulouse during the brief period when his parents ruled the capital. Later that same year, much to his wife's ire, Duke William mortgaged Toulouse to Philippa's cousin, Bertrand of Toulouse, and then left on Crusade. Philippa and her infant son were left in Poitiers. Long after Duke William's return, he took up with Dangereuse, the wife of one of his vassals, and set aside his rightful wife, Philippa. This caused strain between father and son, until William married Ænor of Châtellerault, daughter of his father's mistress, in 1121.

"He had from her three children:

   1. Aliaenor, or Eleanor, who would later become heiress to the Duchy
   2. Aelith, who married Raoul I of Vermandois
   3. William Aigret, who died young

"As his father before him, William X was a patron of troubadours, music and literature. He was an educated man and strove to give his two daughters an excellent education, in a time when Europe's rulers were hardly literate. When Eleanor succeeded him as Duchess, she continued William's tradition and transformed the Aquitanian court into Europe's centre of knowledge. William was both a lover of the arts and a warrior. He became involved in conflicts with Normandy (which he raided in 1136, in alliance with Geoffrey le Bel of Anjou who claimed it in his wife's name) and France. Even inside his borders, William faced an alliance of the Lusignans and the Parthenays against him, an issue resolved with total destruction of the enemies. In international politics, William X initially supported antipope Anacletus II in the schism of 1130, opposite to Pope Innocent II, against the will of his own bishops. In 1134 Saint Bernard of Clairvaux convinced William to drop his support to Anacletus and join Innocent. In 1137 William joined the pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, but died of suspected food poisoning during the trip. On his deathbed, he expressed his wish to see king Louis VI of France as protector of his fifteen-year-old daughter Eleanor, and to find her a suitable husband. Louis VI naturally accepted this guardianship and married the heiress of Aquitaine to his own son, Louis VII."

William = son of

Generation 32

William IX the Troubador, Duke of Aquitaine and Gascony and Count of Poitu (Oct. 22, 1071 - Feb. 10, 1126) one of the leaders of the Crusade of  1101 md. Philippa of Toulouse [Her line]

According to Wikipedia: "William IX (Occitan: Guilhèm de Peitieus; 22 October 1071 – 10 February 1126), called the Troubador, was the Duke of Aquitaine and Gascony and Count of Poitou (as William VII) between 1086 and his death. He was also one of the leaders of the Crusade of 1101 and the first troubadour, that is, vernacular lyric poet in the Occitan language. William was the son of William VIII of Aquitaine by his third wife, Hildegarde of Burgundy. His birth was a cause of great celebration at the Aquitanian court, but the Church at first considered him illegitimate because of his father's earlier divorces and his parents' consanguinity. This obliged his father to make a pilgrimage to Rome soon after his birth to seek Papal approval of his third marriage and the young William's legitimacy."

According to Wikipedia: "Philippa Maude of Toulouse (c. 1073–28 November 1118), also known as Philippa de Toulouse or Philippa de Rouergue, was the Duchess Consort of Aquitaine, and Countess of Toulouse. She is also considered by some historians as a Queen consort of Aragon and Navarre; however, that designation is based on a claimed marriage to King Sancho Ramirez of Aragon, which is now considered suspect.

Philippa was born in approximately 1073 to Count William IV of Toulouse, and his wife Emma of Mortain. She was his only surviving child, and thus, by the laws of Toulouse, his heiress. In 1088, William went on a pilgrimage to Palestine, leaving his brother Raymond of Saint-Gilles as regent. Before he left, it is claimed, he also married his daughter to the King of Aragon in order to disinherit her;[1] however, evidence suggests that Sancho was still married to his previous wife at the time of his death in 1094.)

Willliam = son of

35 William VIII of Aquitaine AKA Guy-Geoffrey (1025 - 25 Sept. 1086) md. Hildegarde of Burgundy, daughter of Robert I (Capet) of Burgundy, son of King Robert II of France [Overlapping line]

According to Wikipedia: "William VIII (1025 – 25 September 1086), born Guy-Geoffrey (Gui-Geoffroi), was duke of Gascony (1052-1086), and then duke of Aquitaine and count of Poitiers (as William VI) between 1058 and 1086, succeeding his brother William VII (Pierre-Guillaume).
Guy-Geoffroy was the youngest son of William V of Aquitaine by his third wife Agnes of Burgundy. He was the brother-in-law of Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor who had married his sister, Agnes de Poitou. He became Duke of Gascony in 1052 during his older brother William VII's rule. Gascony had come to Aquitanian rule through William V's marriage to Prisca (a.k.a Brisce) of Gascony, the sister of Duke Sans VI Guilhem of Gascony. William VIII was one of the leaders of the allied army called to help Ramiro I of Aragon in the Siege of Barbastro (1064). This expedition was the first campaign organized by the papacy, namely Pope Alexander II, against a Muslim city, and the precursor of the later Crusades movement. Aragon and its allies conquered the city, killed its inhabitants and collected an important booty. However, Aragon lost the city again in the following years. During William VIII's rule, the alliance with the southern kingdoms of modern Spain was a political priority as shown by the marriage of all his daughters to Iberian kings. He married three times and had at least five children. After he divorced his second wife due to infertility, he remarried to a much younger woman who was also his cousin. This marriage produced a son, but William VIII had to visit Rome in the early 1070s to persuade the pope to recognize his children from his third marriage as legitimate."

William = son of

36 William V of Aquitaine (969- Jan. 31, 1030) md. Agnes of Burgundy, daughter of Otto-William, Duke of Burgundy,  son of Adalbert, King of Italy and Gerberga of Macon [Her line]

According to Wikipedia: "William V (969 – 31 January 1030), called the Great (le Grand), was Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Poitou (as William II or III) from 990 until his death. He was the son and successor of William IV by his wife Emma, daughter of Theobald I of Blois. He seems to have taken after his formidable mother, who ruled Aquitaine as regent until 1004. He was a friend to Bishop Fulbert of Chartres, who found in him another Maecenas, and founded a cathedral school at Poitiers. He himself was very well educated, a collector of books, and turned the prosperous court of Aquitaine into the learning centre of Southern France. Though a cultivated prince, he was a failure in the field. He called in the aid of his suzerain Robert II of France in subduing his vassal, Boso of La Marche. Together, they yet failed. Eventually, Boso was chased from the duchy. He had to contain the Vikings who yearly threatened his coast, but in 1006, he was defeated by Viking invaders. He lost the Loudunais and Mirebalais to Fulk Nerra, count of Anjou. He had to give up Confolens, Ruffec, and Chabanais to compensate William II of Angoulême, but Fulbert negotiated a treaty (1020) outlining the reciprocal obligations of vassal and suzerain. However, his court was a centre of artistic endeavour and he its surest patron. His piety and culture brought peace to his vast feudum and he tried to stem the tide of feudal warfare then destroying the unity of many European nations by supporting the current Peace and Truce of God movements initiated by Pope and Church. He founded the abbey of Maillezais (1010) and Bourgueil. He rebuilt the cathedral and many other regligious structures in Poitiers after a fire. He travelled widely in Europe, annually visiting Rome or Spain as a pilgrim. Everywhere he was greeted with royal pomp. His court was of an international flavour, receiving ambassadors from the Emperor Henry II, Alfonso V of León, Canute of England, and even his suzerain, Robert of France.
In 1024–1025, an embassy from Italy, sent by Ulric Manfred II of Turin, came to France seeking a king of their own, the Henry II having died. The Italians asked for Robert's son Hugh Magnus, co-king of France, but Robert refused to allow his son to go and the Italians turned to William, whose character and court impressed many. He set out for Italy to consider the proposal, but the Italian political situation convinced him to renounce the crown for him and his heirs. Most of his surviving six letters deal with the Italian proposal. His reign ended in peace and he died on the last (or second to last) day of January 1030 at Maillezais, which he founded and where he is buried. The principal source of his reign is the panegyric of Adhemar of Chabannes."

William = son of

37 William IV of Aquitaine (937 - Feb. 3, 994) md. Emma, daughter of Theobald I of Blois

According to Wikipedia: "William IV (937 – 3 February 994), called Fierebras or Fierebrace (meaning "Iron Arm", from the French Fier-à-bras or Fièrebrace, in turn from the Latin Ferox brachium), was the Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Poitou from 963 to his retirement in 990. William's father, William III, abdicated to the abbey of Saint-Cyprien in Poitiers and left the government to Fierebras. His mother was Gerloc, the daughter of Duke Rollo of Normandy. His sister was Adelaide, wife of Hugh Capet, the king against whom William later battled for his duchy. His early reign was characterised by many wars. He fought frequently against the counts of Anjou, the first time against Geoffrey Greymantle, who had taken Loudun. In 988, he went to war with the newly-elected king of France, Hugh Capet, whom he refused to recognise. Capet had been granted Aquitaine by King Lothair before the latter had been reconciled to William's father. Capet renewed his claim on the great duchy and invaded it that year. A royal army was defeated on the plain of the Loire Valley. William sheltered the young Louis, the son of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine, the last legitimate Carolingian heir. He opened the palace of Poitiers to him and treated him as royalty, regarding him as the true heir to the French throne. In 968, he married Emma or Emmeline, daughter of Theobald I of Blois and Luitgarde of Vermandois. Their marriage was stormy, in part because of William's indulgence in the pursuit of women and, a hunting aficionado, wild animals. She banished his paramours, they separated twice for long periods, and finally he retired to a monastery, as his father had done, leaving Emma to rule Aquitaine in the name of their son William until 1004. Their second son, Ebles, died sometime after 997."

According to Wikipedia: "Theobald I (died 16 January between 975 and 978), called the Cheat(er) or the Trickster (le Tricheur), was the first count of Blois, Chartres, and Châteaudun from 960, and Tours from 945.Theobald was initially a vassal of Hugh the Great, Duke of France. Around 945, he captured King Louis IV to the benefit of Hugh. In return for freedom, the king granted him the city of Laon. He took the title of "count" in Tours. He seized Chartres and Châteaudun and remarried his sister to Fulk II of Anjou. In 958, he met Fulk in Verron and the two described themselves as "governor and administrator [of the] kingdom [of Neustria]" and comites Dei gratia ("counts by the grace of God").
Theobald's sister married Alan II of Brittany and Theobald governed the duchy during the minority of her son Drogo. Thus, Theobald extended his influence all the way to Rennes. In 960, he began opposing Richard I of Normandy and entered into a long war with the Normans. In 961, he attacked Évreux. The Normans responded by attacking Dunois. In 962, he launched an assault on Rouen which failed. The Normans burned Chartres in response. He took control of the fortresses of Saint-Aignan in the Loir-et-Cher , Vierzon, and Anguillon in Berry. During the minority of Hugh Capet, he reinforced Chartres and Châteaudun. Around 960, he built Saumur. By his death, he had built a vast power on the Loire, dominating central France. His daughter Emma brought him the county of Provins, nucleus of the later county of Champagne."

William = son of

38 William III of Aquitaine, the Towhead (915 - April 3, 963) md. Gerloc AKA Adele, daughter of Rollo of Normandy
[Overlapping line. We are also descended from Rollo's son Willaim I "Longsword"]

According to Wikipedia: "William III (915–3 April 963), called Towhead (French: Tête d'étoupe, Latin: Caput Stupe) from the colour of his hair, was the "Count of the Duchy of Aquitaine" from 959 and Duke of Aquitaine from 962 to his death. He was also the Count of Poitou (as William I) from 935 and Count of Auvergne from 950. The primary sources for his reign are Ademar of Chabannes, Dudo of Saint-Quentin, and William of Jumièges. William was son of Ebalus Manzer and Emilienne. He was born in Poitiers. He claimed the Duchy of Aquitaine from his father's death, but the royal chancery did not recognise his ducal title until the year before his own death. Shortly aftered the death of King Rudolph in 936, he was constrained to forfeit some land to Hugh the Great by Louis IV. He did it with grace, but his relationship with Hugh thenceforward deteriorated. In 950, Hugh was reconciled with Louis and granted the duchies of Burgundy and Aquitaine. He tried to conquer Aquitaine with Louis's assistance, but William defeated them. Lothair, Louis's successor, feared the power of William. In August 955 he joined Hugh to besiege Poitiers, which resisted successfully. William, however, gave battle and was routed. After the death of Hugh, his son Hugh Capet was named duke of Aquitaine, but he never tried to take up his fief, as William reconciled with Lothair. He was given the abbey of Saint-Hilaire-le-Grand, which remained in his house after his death. He also built a library in the palace of Poitiers."

According to Wikipedia: "Rollo, occasionally known as Rollo the Viking, (c. 860 - c. 932) was the founder and first ruler of the Viking principality in what soon became known as Normandy. He is also in some sources known as Robert of Normandy, using his baptismal name. The name Rollo is a Frankish-Latin name probably taken from the Old Norse name Hrólfr (cf. the latinization of Hrólfr Kraki into the similar Roluo in the Gesta Danorum, modern Scandinavian name Rolf). Rollo was a Viking leader of contested origin. Dudo of St. Quentin, in his De moribus et actis primorum Normannorum ducum (Latin), tells of a powerful Danish nobleman at loggerheads with the king of Denmark, who then died and left his two sons, Gurim and Rollo, leaving Rollo to be expelled and Gurim killed. William of Jumièges also mentions Rollo's prehistory in his Gesta Normannorum Ducum however he states that he was from the Danish town of Fakse. Wace, writing some 300 years after the event in his Roman de Rou, also mentions the two brothers (as Rou and Garin), as does the Orkneyinga Saga.

"Norwegian and Icelandic historians identified this Rollo with a son of Rognvald Eysteinsson, Earl of Møre, in Western Norway, based on medieval Norwegian and Icelandic sagas that mention a Ganger Hrolf (Hrolf, the Walker). The oldest source of this version is the Latin Historia Norvegiae, written in Norway at the end of the 12th century. This Hrolf fell foul of the Norwegian king Harald Fairhair, and became a Jarl in Normandy. The nickname of that character came from being so big that no horse (or at least not the Norwegian ponies of that era) could carry him.

"The question of Rollo's Danish or Norwegian origins was a matter of heated dispute between Norwegian and Danish historians of the 19th and early 20th century, particularly in the run-up to Normandy's 1000-year-anniversary in 1911. Today, historians still disagree on this question, but most would now agree that a certain conclusion can never be reached.

"In 885, Rollo was one of the lesser leaders of the Viking fleet which besieged Paris under Sigfred. Legend has it that an emissary was sent by the king to find the chieftain and negotiate terms. When he asked for this information, the Vikings replied that they were all chieftains in their own right. In 886, when Sigfred retreated in return for tribute, Rollo stayed behind and was eventually bought off and sent to harry Burgundy.

"Later, he returned to the Seine with his followers (known as Danes, or Norsemen). He invaded the area of northern France now known as Normandy.

"In 911 Rollo's forces were defeated at the Battle of Chartres by the troops of King Charles the Simple. In the aftermath of the battle, rather than pay Rollo to leave, as was customary, Charles the Simple understood that he could no longer hold back their onslaught, and decided to give Rollo the coastal lands they occupied under the condition that he defend against other raiding Vikings. In the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte (911) with King Charles, Rollo pledged feudal allegiance to the king, changed his name to the Frankish version, and converted to Christianity, probably with the baptismal name Robert.[2] In return, King Charles granted Rollo the lower Seine area (today's upper Normandy) and the titular rulership of Normandy, centred around the city of Rouen. There exists some argument among historians as to whether Rollo was a "duke" (dux) or whether his position was equivalent to that of a "count" under Charlemagne. According to legend, when required to kiss the foot of King Charles, as a condition of the treaty, he refused to perform so great a humiliation, and when Charles extended his foot to Rollo, Rollo ordered one of his warriors to do so in his place. His warrior then lifted Charles' foot up to his mouth causing him to fall to the ground.

"Initially, Rollo stayed true to his word of defending the shores of the Seine river in accordance to the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, but in time he and his followers had very different ideas. Rollo began to divide the land between the Epte and Risle rivers among his chieftains and settled there with a de facto capital in Rouen. With these settlements, Rollo began to further raid other Frankish lands, now from the security of a settled homeland, rather than a mobile fleet. Eventually, however, Rollo's men intermarried with the local women, and became more settled as Frenchmen. At the time of his death, Rollo's expansion of his territory had extended as far west as the Vire River.

"Sometime around 927, Rollo passed the fief in Normandy to his son, William Longsword. Rollo may have lived for a few years after that, but certainly died before 933. According to the historian Adhemar, 'As Rollo's death drew near, he went mad and had a hundred Christian prisoners beheaded in front of him in honour of the gods whom he had worshipped, and in the end distributed a hundred pounds of gold around the churches in honour of the true God in whose name he had accepted baptism.' Even though Rollo had converted to Christianity, some of his pagan roots surfaced at the end.

"Rollo is a direct ancestor of William the Conqueror. Through William, he is a direct ancestor and predecessor of the present-day British royal family. The "Clameur de Haro" in the Channel Islands is, supposedly, an appeal to Rollo."

William = son of

39 Ebalus Manzer Count of Poitu and Duke of Aquitaine (c. 870 - 935) md. Emiliene

According to Wikipedia: "Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 – 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death. Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. The meaning of his surname is disputed. Manzer is a Germanic habitational name, but also a Germanic personal name formed from magin, meaning "strength" or "might" (cf magnus). It may also be a corruption of the Hebrew mamzer, meaning bastard, hence the appellation sometimes seen, Ebles the Bastard, and his supposed Jewish mother. The same surname was used by another Prince from Occitania, Arnaud Manzer, Count of Angoulême (born 952-died 988/92) who also was a bastard. No any other European Prince had name Manzer. This fact makes problematic the speculation about Germanic origin of the Ebles' surname.

"Ebles succeeded his father Ranulf in 890, but was driven out in 892 by Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France. Ebles gained the backing of William the Pious, Count of Auvergne, who placed Aquitaine under his own authority in 893.

"In 902, Ebles launched the reconquest of his county with an army lent by his distant relative William the Pious. He took Poitiers while Aymar was away and established control of the county. He was invested as count by Charles III, with whom Ebles had been raised.

"The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.

"In 904, he conquered the Limousin. In 911, Ebles was in Chartres with an army to oppose Rollo, the Viking leader.

"In 927, William the Younger, successor of William the Pious, and then his successor, his brother Acfred, died in the space of one year. Acfred had made Ebles his heir; Ebles thus found himself Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Auvergne, and Velay.

"In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county."

Ebalus = son of

40 Rainulf II of Aquitaine (850 - Aug. 5, 890)

According to Wikipedia: "Ranulf II (also spelled Rannoux, Rannulf, Ramnulf, and Ranulph; 850 – 5 August 890) was Count of Poitou from 866 and Duke of Aquitaine from 887. On the death of Charles the Fat in 888, he styled himself King of Aquitaine and did so until 889 or his death, after which the title fell into abeyance.

"He may have been selected as a temporary king by the Aquitainian nobles, for they accepted Odo of France after his death. Only the Annales Fuldenses definitively give him this title. He is recorded to have taken custody of Charles, the young son of Louis the Stammerer and he certainly did not recognise Odo as king. He appeared in the Annales Vedastes in 889 with the title dux maximae partis Aquitaniae: "duke of the major part of Aquitaine." He founded the viscountcy of Thouars at about that time, part of larger movement to creat viscounts with powers over regional fortresses to man them against the Vikings.

"Ranulf was a son of Ranulf I and Bilichild of Maine. He married an Ermengard (died 935) and by her had a son, Ranulf III, who succeeded him in Poitiers. His illegitimate son Ebalus succeeded him in Aquitaine and, upon the death of Ranulf III, in Poitiers too."

Rainulf = son of

41 Rainulf I Count of Poitiers and Duke of Aquitaine (820 - 866)  md. Bilichild of Maine

According to Wikipedia: "Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph; 820 – 866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I, is the 32nd Great-Grandfather to Queen Elizabeth II"


The Welf or Guelph Family, Starting from Generation 30, with Judith of Welf or Guelph

Judith of Welf or Guelph (d. 1130 or 1131) md. Frederick II, Duke of Swabia "the One-Eyed" (of the Hohenstaufen dynasty) (1090 - April 6, 1147)

Judith = daughter of

Generation 31

Henry IX, Duke of Bavaria "the Black" from the House of Welf or Guelph  (d. Dec. 13, 1126) md. Wilfhild, daughter of Magnus Duke of Saxony, son of Ordulf and Wulfhild of Norway [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Henry III Von Este, called "The Black," Duke of Saxony md. Wulfildus, daughter and heir of Magnus, last Duke of Saxony of the Billung]

Henry = son of

Generation 32

35 Welf I, Duke of Bavaria (counts as Welf IV in Welf genealogy) (d. Nov. 6, 1101, Paphos) first member of the Welf branch of the House of Este; joined the Crusade of 1101 and died while returning md. Judith of Flanders, daughter of Baldwin IV, Count of Flanders [Her line]

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Guelph I Von Este, 1001; md. Judith, daughter of Balwin V Count of Flanders]

Welf = son of

Generation 33

Alberto Azzo II of Este (c. 997 - c. 1097), Margrave of Milan and Liguria, Count of Gavello and padua, Rovigo, Unigiana, Monselice, and Montagnana; around 1073 he made a castle at Este his residence from which the House of Este takes its name md. around 1035 Chuniza of Altdorf, daughter of Welf II Count of Altdof [Her line]
for details see http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MODENA,%20FERRARA.htm#AlbertoAzzoIdied1029B

We are also descended from Albert Azzo by way of another of his sons, Fulco

[Cary-Estes p. 84 Alberto Azzo Von Este, Marquis of Este d. 1098 md. (1) 1040 to Cunissa (or Cunagonda), dau. of Guelph III, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 1020; son of Guelph II, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 980; son of Rudolph I, Duke of Lower Bavaria; son of Henry II; son of Henry I; son of Guelph the First, Duke of Lower Bavaria, 820]

Alberto = son of

Generation 34

37 Alberto Azzo I, Margrave of Milan (d. 1029)

Alberto  = son of

Generation 35

38 Oberto II md. Railend

Oberto II = son of

Generation 36

39 Oberto I, Count Palatine of Italy (d. Oct. 15, 975), founder of the obertenghi family, Count of Milan from 951

Oberto = son of

Generation 37

40 Margrave Adalbert of Mainz, Frankish nobility who settled in Lombardy



Aunts, Uncles and Cousins

from Generation 2

Family of Burton H. Denenberg md. Judy Sklair Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first cousins once removed

     Joel Denenberg
     Fred Denenberg

Family of Alan Denenberg md. (1) Mary Lou Zittman md. (2) Vici Brown, Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

children of Alan and Mary Lou Zittman = first cousins once removed

     Jay Denenberg md. Lin Fei
     their children = second cousins
          Dalen Denenberg
          Meme Denenberg

     Jill Denenberg md. Michael Cohen
     their children = second cousins
          Haley Cohen
          Chole Cohen

     Todd Denenberg

     Beth Denenberg md. Sam Jordan
     their children = second cousins
          Abby Jordan
          Ellie Jordan
          Cole Jordan

     Doug Denenberg

daughter of Alan and Vicki Brown = first cousin once removed

     Nicole Denenberg

Family of Mary Jane Hartley (b. 1937) md. John Carew (1936-1990) Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first cousin once removed

Daniel Carew  (b. 1980) md. Dana Begnal (b. 1959)
     their children = second cousins
     Katey Carew (b. 1993)
     Julia Carew (b. 1995)
 
John Carew (b. 1961)

Mary Beth Carew (b. 1963) md. Rob Romeo (b. 1961)
     their children = second cousins
     Robert Romeo (b. 1992)
     Christina Romeo (b. 1996)

Charles Carew (b. 1965) md. Lisa Cunningham (b. 1964)
     Their children = second cousins
     Kayla Carew (b. 1999)
     Bailey Carew (b. 2001)

Family of Elynor E. Hartley (b. 1939) md. Alan Harrington (c. 1995)
Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their son = first cousin once removed

     Thomas Harrington (b. 1959) md. Deborah Loop (b. 1960)

Family of Charles (Chuck) F. Hartley (b. 1943) md. (1) Elaine Giny, (2) Mary Picard (3) Raven Seltzer (b. 1964) Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

children of Charles Hartley and Mary Picard = first cousins once removed

     Robert Hartley
     Sarah Hartley

from Generation 3

Family of Lewis Stanley Estes (March 31, 1911- Aug. 9, 1978, Philadelphia) md. Jean Brulinski (b. June 18, 1922) Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first cousin twice removed

    
Robert Lewis Estes (b. June 7, 1947 Philadelphia) md. Kathleen McLean
     their children = second cousins once removed
          Lewis Joseph Estes (Nov. 21, 1974)
          Robert Lewis Estes (June 8, 1978)
     Joan Mae Estes (b. Aug. 4, 1941 Philadelphia) data processing, md. Feb. 12, 1966 in Philadelphia Harry Hober, Jr. (b. Sept. 20, 1940) served in Vietnam, shear operator
     their children = second cousins once removed
          Michelle Hober (b. Dec. 10, 1967)
          Harry Hober III (b. Dec. 9, 1970)
          Jason Hober (b. Feb. 10, 1973)
     Jeanette Louise Estes (b. Sept. 19, 1957 Philadelphia) md. April 28, 1979 in Philadelphia, Edmund Witalec (son of Louis and Helen Stodonoly Witalic of Philadellphia) M/M in US Marine Corps

Lily Margaret Estes (Lillian) (b. Dec. 12, 1909) md. 1929 William Norris Moyer, Jr. (b. Aug. 29, 1906) Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first cousins twice removed
     William (Billy) Norris Moyer, III (b. Oct. 24, 1935) md. July 26, 1958 in Philadelphia Blanche Wilkerson (b. Feb. 19, 1939) (daughter of Ira nad Mary Lea Langford Wilkerson)
     their children = second cousins once removed
          William Norris Moyer IV (b.Jan. 21, 1959 in Philadelphia)
          Craig Wilkerson Moyer (b. July 28, 1960)
     Betty Jane Moyer (b. April 14, 1932) md. June 2,  1956 in Philadelphia Paul William Knittel, Jr. (b. June 5, 1921 in Philadelphia) served as Lt. Commander in Navy during WW II (son of Paul William and Marie Miller Knittel of Philadelphia)
     their children = second cousins twice removed
          Paul Knittel, III (b. 1957)

          David John Knittel (b. 1963)

Virginia Griffith Estes (b. Jan. 13, 1914-2000) md. June 12, 1937 Edward Robert Jacoby, Jr. (b. June 27, 1914 d. Jan. 1, 1974) Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first counsins twice removed
     Wayne Jacoby (b. Sept. 24,1940) high school teacher and founder of Global Education Motivators (GEM) md. Agu. 13, 1966 in Cheltenham, PA Joanne Jordan teacher (daughter of George and Elsie Irvin Jorday of Cheltenham, PA)
     their daughter = second cousin once removed
          Leslie Ann Jacoby
     Virginia Jacoby (Ginney or Ginger) (b. Jan. 26, 1945) md. Oct. 16, 1965 in Philadelphia Charles Thomas Coffman (b. April 18, 1945 in Philadelphia) printer  (son of Chales and Isabella Fuhrmeister Coffman)
     their daughters = second cousins once removed
          April Lynne Coffman (b. April 22, 1968)
          Amy Dayle Coffman (b. June 5, 1971)

Agnes Griffith Estes (b. August 20, 1915 in Philadelphia) md. Sept. 3, 1938 George John Meyers, Jr. (b. May 23, 1916 in Philadelphia)
Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle

their children = first cousins twice removed
     George John Meyers III (b. June 28,1939 in Philadelphia), warehouseman for Sears, Roebuck md. May 22, 1971 in Philadelphia Kathleen Julia Pierson (b. Sept. 19, 1946 in Philadelphia) (daughter of Edward Thomas and Mary Bridget Toner Pierson who was born in County Louth, Ireland)
     their children = second cousins once removed
          Gregory Edward Meyers (b. Feb. 15, 1973 in Cheltenham, PA)
         Patrick John Meyers (b. Oct. 31, 1979 in Cheltenham, PA)
    James Meyers (b. April 23, 1944 in Philadelphia) served in Vietnam War on aircraft carrier Enterprise, chief petty officer Md. July 27, 1968 in Philadelphia, Doris Marie Gilhool (b. Oct. 29, 1942) (daughter of James F. and Marie Swanick Gilhool)
    their children = second cousins once removed
          Diane Marie Meyers (b. June 9, 1969 in Philadelphia)
          James Lewis Meyers (Jan. 22, 1971 in Philadelphia)
          Maryanne Meyers (b. Oct. 8, 1975 in Philadelphia)
          Rosemary Meyers (b. Feb. 8, 1978 in Philadelphia)
    Patricia (Patti) Meyers (b. Nov. 25, 1947 in Philadelphia) m
d. (1) Nov. 27, 1964 in Darby, PA Joseph Michael Mauriello md. 2) Nov. 20, 1970 Charles Francis Castagna (b. Jan. 7, 1946 in Philadelphia) (son of Alfonso Peter and Dorothy Ann Margaret Schindeldecker Castagna of Phildelphia)
    child of Patricia and Joseph = second cousin once removed
          Michael Joseph Mauriello (now Castagna) (b. April 29, 1966)
    children of Patricia and Charles Castagna = second cousins once removed
          Lisa Castagna (b. Dec. 20, 1971 in Philadelphia)
          Felicia Castagna (b. Nov. 9, 1973 in Philadelphia)
    David George John Meyers (b. April 6, 1955 in Philadelphia d. July 6, 1975 in motorcycle accident)

Mildred Elizabeth Estes (b. July 20, 1922 in Philadelphia) md. (2) 1947 Walter Taney Rowland (b. Dec. 30, 1917, in Prospect Park, PA d. Sept. 16, 1969 in Somers Point, NJ) Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle
 

children of Mildred and Walter = first cousins twice removed
    Joyce Lynne Rowland  (b. March 14, 1949 in Somers Point, NJ) md. Jan. 26, 1974 in Somers Point, NJ, Richard Emery Brown (b. March 24, 1949) (son of Edward and Emma Kiefer Brown of Philadelphia)
    their children = second cousins once removed
         Keith Richard Brown (b. Dec. 22, 1976, Woodbury, NJ)
         Pamela Leigh Brown (b. Sept. 18, 1979, Woodbury, NJ)
    Gay Diane Rowland (b. March 23, 1951) md. Sept. 30, 1978 in Somers Point, NJ, John Larry Blohm (b. May 22, 1948 in Mansfield, OH) (son of James Russell and Jancie Kendricks Blohm)
    Lawrence Walter Rowland (b. Feb. 4, 1955
in Somers Point, NJ) lance corporal in US Marine Corps, md. Oct. 11, 1975 in Ocean City, NJ, Deborah Ann Foglio (b. Oc. 6, 1954, Somers Point, NJ) (daughter of Leonard Joseph and Dorothy Ann McLaughlin Foglio)

From Generation 5

James Lillian Bogan md. Elizabeth H. Great-Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle
their children = first cousins three times removed
     Mary Anne Harriet Bogan born Dec. 10, 1877
     Ellie Bogan born April 4, 1879
     Penrose Marion Bogan born April 1883
     Georgina Bogan born Sept. 10, 1884
     Kathleen Bogan born Dec. 12, 1885
     Violet Bogan born April 8, 1888
    Olive Bogan born Oct. 2, 1892

 
Willian Mullins Bogan married Agnes ___  Great-Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle
their children=- frist cousins three times removed
     Margaret Patterson born March 30, 1880, married age 19, died age 20 (Laphamore)
     James William born March 26, 1882
     Robert William Bogan (ran away to sea before age 14 and died of yellow fever 1903 or 1905)

Amos Frederick Bogan died 1905 md. Annie Vearian
  Great-Great-Great-Aunt and Great-Uncle
their children - first cousins three times removed
     James (navy)
     his children = second cousins two times removed
           James, college Belfast
           Brian, civil engineer
           Eileen Lily
     Annie
     her children = second cousins two times removed
          Eric
          Eden
          George
          Doreen
          Louise
          Evelyn Mons
     Elizabeth married (in Wesley Chapel) ___ Richards (Welsh)
     their children = second cousins two times removed
          Frieda
          Gwen (flood Lynmouth)
          Dolly
          Florrie
      George (engineer)
      his children = second cousins two times removed
          George
          Jim
          Frederick (killed as test pilot)
      William motor engineer (d. 1964)
      his children: = second cousins two times removed
          Frederick
          Bluebell
          William, college in Belfast
      Florence md. Alec Dunn
      their children = second cousins two times removed
          George Alexander Dunn
         Jean Annette married _______Wells


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