Branching from Margaret Fleming (generation 18)
The line
Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Graham-Fleming
22
generations, back to about 1413 in Scotland
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1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007
1 Lila Pearl Seltzer b. May 27, 2010
daughters of
2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md. Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976
2
Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989
children of
3 Richard Warren (8) Seltzer, Jr. (b. Feb. 23 1946 Clarksville, TN) md. (1) July 28, 1973 Boston, MA Barbara Ann Hartley (1950-2012), md. (2) Sept. 27, 2015 Marilyn Lender (b. Aug. 22, 1945, NY, NY)
Richard = son of
4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923
Helen = daughter of
5 Smith William Estes ( June 17, 1881 - Dec. 20, 1943) md. in Philadelphia, PA 1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)
Smith = son of
6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)
Louis = son of
7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)
Albert = son of
8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN) md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)
Sarah = daughter of
9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776in Chesterfield County, VA Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary
Daniel = son of
10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)
James = son of
11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)
Susannah = daughter of
12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)
According to My Ancestors and Relatives: "Colonel Charles was born on December 10th, 1659 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. Colonel Charles' father was John FLEMMING and his mother was Mrs. Mercy Or Mary FLEMING. His paternal grandparents were Captain Alexander FLEMING and Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. He had four brothers and a sister, named William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia. He died at the age of 57 on October 7th, 1717 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Susanna was born in Of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va. Susanna's father was Stephen TARLETON and her mother is Susanna. She had a sister named Judith. She died after October 7th, 1717 in St.peters Parish, New Kent.
"Colonel Charles and Susanna were married in a religious ceremony in New Kent, Virginia. They had two sons and eight daughters, named Colonel John, Tarleton, Susannah, Elizabeth, Judith, Ursula, Anne, Grace, Anne and Sarah.
Charles = son of
13 John Fleming (b. 1627 Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, ScotlandVirginia d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register)
Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 86 indicates that according to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___. She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton." John Fleming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.
According to My Ancestors and Relatives: "John was born in 1627 in Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John's father was Captain Alexander FLEMING and his mother was Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Margaret LIVINGSTON; his maternal grandparents are William ANDERSON and MRS. ANDERSON. He had a brother and two sisters, named John, Elizabeth and Alexia. He died at the age of 59 on April 27th, 1686 in Charles Parish, York Co., Virginia. His burial was on April 30th, 1686 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Mrs. Mercy or Mary was born about 1637 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. She died in , New Kent, Va.
"John and Mrs. Mercy or Mary were married in a religious ceremony in , , , England. They had five sons and a daughter, named Colonel Charles, William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia."
John = son of
14 Alexander Fleming (b. 1612 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Dec. 30, 1668 Rappahannock Co., VA) md. Elizabeth (AKA Elspet) Anderson (b. 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Oct. 6, 1656 Rappahannock Co., VA)
According to My Ancestors and Relatives: "Captain Alexander was born about 1612 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Captain Alexander's father was John FLEMING and his mother was Margaret LIVINGSTON. His paternal grandparents were John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and Lillias Lilias GRAHAM; his maternal grandfather was Alexander LIVINGSTON and his maternal grandmother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. He had two brothers and six sisters, named John, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret. He died on December 30th, 1668 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Elizabeth (Elspet) was born about 1614 in Of Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Elizabeth (Elspet)'s father is William ANDERSON and her mother is MRS. ANDERSON. Her paternal grandfather is John ANDERSON. She was an only child. She died on October 6th, 1656 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Captain Alexander and Elizabeth (Elspet) were married in a religious ceremony about 1632 in Scotland. They had two sons and two daughters, named John, John, Elizabeth and Alexia."
Alexander = son of
15 John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634)
According to My Ancestors and Relatives: "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland. John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM. His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel. He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. His burial was in Scotland.
"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna. She died in 1634.
"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland. They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.
John = son of
16 Lilias Graham (b. 1570 Montrose, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 1605 Perth, Perthshire, Scotland md. Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming, first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 md. [His line]
The Cary Estes Geneaology p. 86 quotes "Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose. Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to promote the principles of the Reformation. Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions. While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldest son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He [the son, the Second Earl of Wigton] married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband. They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
Lilias = daughter of
17 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548- Nov. 9, 1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604 md. Joan Drummond [Her line]
According
to
Wikipedia: "John Graham, 3rd Earl of Montrose (1548 – 9
November 1608) was a Scottish peer and Chancellor of the
University of St Andrews from 1599 to 1604.
He was a natural great-grandson of King James IV of
Scotland, his maternal grandmother, Janet Fleming, being a
royal bastard."
According to Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 85: Joan "dau. of David Drummond, Second and Lord, and Lilias Ruthven; son of Walter Drummond; son of William Drummond and Isabel Campbell, dau. of Colin Campbell, Earl of Argyle; son of Sir John Drummond and Eliza Lindsey." [Her line]
John = son of
18 Margaret Fleming (d. after Aug. 15, 1584) [Overlapping line. We are also descended from her brother John] md. before 1548 Robert Graham, Master of Montrose (d. before 1557 Pinkie, Scotland)
According to thepeerage.com: " Margaret Fleming was the daughter of Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming and Janet Stewart.1 She married, firstly, Robert Graham , Lord Graham before 1548.1 She married, secondly, Thomas Erskine, Master of Erskine, son of John Erskine, 5th Lord Erskine and Lady Margaret Campbell, from 30 January 1548 to 1549. She married, thirdly, John Stewart, 4th Earl of Atholl, son of John Stewart, 3rd Earl of Atholl and Grizel Rattray, on 1 April 1557.1 She died after 15 August 1584. From before 1548, her married name became Graham.1 From from 30 January 1548 to 1549, her married name became Erskine.1 From 1 April 1557, her married name became Stewart.1 As a result of her marriage, Margaret Fleming was styled as Countess of Atholl on 1 April 1557. She was thought to possess powers of incantation.
Margaret = daughter of
19 Malcolm Fleming, third Lord Fleming Wikipedia (b. about 1494 d. Sept. 10, 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland) md. Lady Janet Stewart, Wikipedia daughter of King James IV of Scotland [Her line]
According to Wikipedia: "Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming (c.1494 - 10 September 1547) son and heir of John Fleming, 2nd Lord Fleming, Lord Chamberlain of Scotland 1524. He was taken prisoner by the English at the Battle of Solway Moss, Nov 1542, but released at a ransom of 1000 marks on 1 July 1548. He was granted a dispensation on 26 February 1524/5, and subsequently married Lady Janet Stewart, illegitimate daughter of King James IV of Scotland He died 10 September 1547, in his 53rd year, being slain at the Battle of Pinkie."
According to Wikipedia: "Janet Stewart, Lady Fleming (or Jane, Joan, Jean, or Johanna; c.1505 – c.1563) was an illegitimate daughter of James IV of Scotland who served as governess to her niece, Mary, Queen of Scots, and was briefly a mistress to Henry II of France. Her daughter, Mary Fleming, was one of the Queen's Four Maries."
According to thepeerage.com: "Malcolm Fleming, 3rd Lord Fleming was born circa 1494.2 He married Janet Stewart, daughter of James IV Stewart, King of Scotland and Lady Agnes Stewart.3 He died on 10 September 1547 at Pinkie, Scotland."
Malcolm = son of
20 John Fleming, 2nd Lord Fleming, Lord Chamberlain of Scotland md. Eupheme Drummond
John = son of
21 Robert Fleming 1st Lord Fleming (d. 1491)
According
to
thePeerage.com: " Robert Fleming,
Lord Fleming was the son of Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar
and Cumbernauld and Elizabeth Stewart.1 He married, firstly,
Lady Janet Douglas, daughter of James Douglas, 7th Earl of
Douglas and Beatrice Sinclair.1 He married, secondly,
Margaret Lindsay, daughter of John Lindsay.1 He died in
1491.1
Robert Fleming, Lord Fleming gained
the title of Lord."
Robert = son of
22 Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar and Cumbernauld (d. 1440, executed) md. before June 28, 1413 Elizabeth Stewart daughter of Robert Stewart 1st Duke of Albany and Muriel Keith [Her line]
According
to
thePeerage.com: "Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar and
Cumbernauld married Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of Robert
Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany and Muriel Keith, before 28 June
1413.2 He died in 1440, executed."
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